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The whole security clearance thing is rather over-rated. Many people are immediately disqualified during the background investigation because they missed a paym

The whole security clearance thing is rather over-rated. Many people are immediately disqualified during the background investigation because they missed a payment on something once, or changed jobs too often, or were arrested, yet never convicted of a crime. So the fact that someone does not qualify for a security clearance says very little about them as a person.

phaus 13y ago
There are people that have filed for bankruptcy that managed to get a TS. It would be highly unusual to be rejected for missing a single payment, provided you are current while the investigation is going on. It would also be extremely unlikely that one gets rejected for changing jobs frequently, unless one of your former employers alleged misconduct of some sort.
- ef47d35620c1 13y ago
  They explicitly allow for bankruptcy, but not other poor credit issues.
genericuser 13y ago
The security process in my experience is very much about how much of what they find you were forthcoming with and announced on the forms. If you missed a payment there is a section of the background paperwork you fill out proving information on it. It is very likely you would be denied if you left that section blank and had a missed payment, or if you changed jobs, or addresses very often and did not list all of them with proper references so they could verify them. But you will be denied basically because you lied not because of the missed payment or address changes.
eli 13y ago
Fun fact: you can actually read the transcript of rulings on clearance decisions for DoD contractors: http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/doha/industrial/2013.html http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/doha/industrial/2013.html It's true that many people are denied because of their finances, but it's not as cut and dry as you might think. You also have to wonder what some of these people were thinking. That the DoD wouldn't notice you're on probation and a drug user?
- djKianoosh 13y ago
  Thanks for this link. It's really fantastic to read some of the reasons for approval and denial.. Here's a good one that was really interesting to me for personal reasons since some of the facts are similar to mine: "Applicant was born in Iran. He left Iran in 1985, was educated in the United States, married a native-born U.S. citizen, and became a U.S. citizen. He adopted an American name when he became a U.S. citizen, and he gave American names to his children. He has never returned to Iran. He held a public trust position for three years. His sister is a citizen and resident of Iran, but he has never visited her in Iran. His parents and two brothers are citizens and residents of the United States. His older brother held a security clearance for six years. Although his parents live in the United States, they spend about six months of each year visiting their daughter in Iran. Security concerns are mitigated by Applicant’s deep and longstanding relationships and loyalties in the United States. Clearance is granted. CASE NO: 12-11015.h1 "
  - eli 13y ago
    Well, good luck to you! If you decide to go this route, I think the trick is making yourself very desirable to a defense contractor so that they'll sponsor your clearance and go to bat for you.
chrismcb 13y ago
Or they participated in the right to free speech and claimed to be communist.

phaus 13y ago

There are people that have filed for bankruptcy that managed to get a TS. It would be highly unusual to be rejected for missing a single payment, provided you are current while the investigation is going on. It would also be extremely unlikely that one gets rejected for changing jobs frequently, unless one of your former employers alleged misconduct of some sort.

ef47d35620c1 13y ago
They explicitly allow for bankruptcy, but not other poor credit issues.

genericuser 13y ago

The security process in my experience is very much about how much of what they find you were forthcoming with and announced on the forms. If you missed a payment there is a section of the background paperwork you fill out proving information on it. It is very likely you would be denied if you left that section blank and had a missed payment, or if you changed jobs, or addresses very often and did not list all of them with proper references so they could verify them. But you will be denied basically because you lied not because of the missed payment or address changes.

eli 13y ago

Fun fact: you can actually read the transcript of rulings on clearance decisions for DoD contractors: http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/doha/industrial/2013.html http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/doha/industrial/2013.html It's true that many people are denied because of their finances, but it's not as cut and dry as you might think. You also have to wonder what some of these people were thinking. That the DoD wouldn't notice you're on probation and a drug user?

djKianoosh 13y ago
Thanks for this link. It's really fantastic to read some of the reasons for approval and denial.. Here's a good one that was really interesting to me for personal reasons since some of the facts are similar to mine: "Applicant was born in Iran. He left Iran in 1985, was educated in the United States, married a native-born U.S. citizen, and became a U.S. citizen. He adopted an American name when he became a U.S. citizen, and he gave American names to his children. He has never returned to Iran. He held a public trust position for three years. His sister is a citizen and resident of Iran, but he has never visited her in Iran. His parents and two brothers are citizens and residents of the United States. His older brother held a security clearance for six years. Although his parents live in the United States, they spend about six months of each year visiting their daughter in Iran. Security concerns are mitigated by Applicant’s deep and longstanding relationships and loyalties in the United States. Clearance is granted. CASE NO: 12-11015.h1 "
- eli 13y ago
  Well, good luck to you! If you decide to go this route, I think the trick is making yourself very desirable to a defense contractor so that they'll sponsor your clearance and go to bat for you.

chrismcb 13y ago

Or they participated in the right to free speech and claimed to be communist.