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The Artificial Womb Is Born (1996)

35 points by guard-of-terra 13y ago

teddyh 13y ago
More like the last episode of the 1988 TV show Max Headroom, “Baby Grobags”.
alexeisadeski3 13y ago
'The World of the Matrix' involves a lot more than artificial wombs. Regardless, it is nice that one day, hopefully soon, men will be able to start their own (biological) families - just as women are able today.
- argumentum 13y ago
  Huh? How do women start their own "biological" families today? I guess you mean genetic? If so, no women can't do that today, and artificial gestation alone won't allow men to do it . Women still require a sperm donor, and (with artificial gestation) men would need an egg donor. Regardless, I agree that within our lives people will be able to start their own "biological" families as most of the barriers are just engineering barriers.
  - alexeisadeski3 13y ago
    Yes I mean with donor sperm.
    - argumentum 13y ago
      But then men can do the same thing today .. with a donor placenta (surrogate mother) & a donor egg. Artificial placentas alone change nothing for men who want their own children, other than potential cost savings.
      - alexeisadeski3 13y ago
        Using a surrogate mother puts you at the mercy of her whim. She may decide to keep the baby, thus forcing you to pay massive child support. For wealthy men this is extraordinarily risky.
mrcharles 13y ago
This article is a flat out copy paste of the original New York Times article. http://www.nytimes.com/1996/09/29/magazine/the-artificial-womb-is-born.html http://www.nytimes.com/1996/09/29/magazine/the-artificial-wo... edit: An article from 1996, I might add.
- guard-of-terra 13y ago
  Updated the submission with year. Can't change url!
chillax 13y ago
The entire post seems to be a copy of the source from NYT in 1996. I wonder what advances have been done in this field from that date to now? Not much on wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_uterus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_uterus)
- uptown 13y ago
  Entirely different - but the first successful uterus transplant recently occurred. Unfortunately, she lost the baby at 8 weeks. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/12/worlds-first-successful-uterus-transplant-recipient-is-pregnant-via-in-vitro-fertilization/ http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/12/worlds-first-successfu... http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/womb-transplant-patient-derya-sert-loses-baby-211659723.html http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/womb-transplant-patien...
steve_barham 13y ago
I'm not sure why this article has been published in 2013; it seems to stem from the late 1990s, with it's speculation on the widespread use of technology 'by 2000': "I wouldn’t want to push back the gestational age limit,” Shaffer says. ”I want to eliminate the damage.” He says he believes that this technology may become the standard. By the year 2000, these techniques may be available in large centers" Picking one of the researchers named in the project (Yoshinori Kuwabara) suggests that the article originates somewhere between 1997 and 2000. http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/genbio/olc_linkedcontent/bioethics_cases/g-bioe-17.htm http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/genbio/olc_linkedcontent/bioethic... - describes his artificial womb technology from 1997 - published in 2000 but indicates that the researcher has died
- chillax 13y ago
  This is also from Kuwabara (1987): http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3619696 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3619696 And some follow up research I think: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3054922/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3054922/
- mrcharles 13y ago
  It's a copy paste from the New York Times website.
chollida1 13y ago
Not sure what's going on with the title, but the matrix was released in 1999 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/ so I'm not sure just how an article from 1996 could reference the movie. I guess I'm being too pedantic here:)
- svantana 13y ago
  The linked article was published last year, although the entire article body is copied from a 1996 NYT article titled "The Artificial Womb Is Born". Case closed...
- clever_fish 13y ago
  This appears to be an example of the magic of plagiarism.
gadders 13y ago
I can see this happening one day. Hopefully it will be a way for otherwise-aborted foetuses to be routed to appreciative infertile couples.
nico_h 13y ago
Anyone has any idea about how far this research is nowadays? The applications could be life saving beyond neonatology: - Pregnant women being diagnosed with illness that would threaten the baby. - Pregnant women being diagnosed with illness for which the cure would threaten the baby. - Pregnant women in very serious accidents (mother dying, such a device could save the baby). - Infertile couples not wanting to use a surrogate mother. - Like "alexeisadeski3" said, gay couples wanting to have a baby (but then, which one gets to be the biological father?). In the crazy science department, this would render the cloning of extinct species more viable. Unfortunately, it could also reduce the hurdles to create genetically modified beings.
- guard-of-terra 13y ago
  What's wrong with creating genetically modified beings? Some of my genes blow and I don't want to pass those on children.

More like the last episode of the 1988 TV show Max Headroom, “Baby Grobags”.

'The World of the Matrix' involves a lot more than artificial wombs. Regardless, it is nice that one day, hopefully soon, men will be able to start their own (biological) families - just as women are able today.

argumentum 13y ago
Huh? How do women start their own "biological" families today? I guess you mean genetic? If so, no women can't do that today, and artificial gestation alone won't allow men to do it . Women still require a sperm donor, and (with artificial gestation) men would need an egg donor. Regardless, I agree that within our lives people will be able to start their own "biological" families as most of the barriers are just engineering barriers.
- alexeisadeski3 13y ago
  Yes I mean with donor sperm.
  - argumentum 13y ago
    But then men can do the same thing today .. with a donor placenta (surrogate mother) & a donor egg. Artificial placentas alone change nothing for men who want their own children, other than potential cost savings.
    - alexeisadeski3 13y ago
      Using a surrogate mother puts you at the mercy of her whim. She may decide to keep the baby, thus forcing you to pay massive child support. For wealthy men this is extraordinarily risky.

mrcharles 13y ago

This article is a flat out copy paste of the original New York Times article. http://www.nytimes.com/1996/09/29/magazine/the-artificial-womb-is-born.html http://www.nytimes.com/1996/09/29/magazine/the-artificial-wo... edit: An article from 1996, I might add.

guard-of-terra 13y ago
Updated the submission with year. Can't change url!

chillax 13y ago

The entire post seems to be a copy of the source from NYT in 1996. I wonder what advances have been done in this field from that date to now? Not much on wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_uterus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_uterus)

uptown 13y ago
Entirely different - but the first successful uterus transplant recently occurred. Unfortunately, she lost the baby at 8 weeks. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/12/worlds-first-successful-uterus-transplant-recipient-is-pregnant-via-in-vitro-fertilization/ http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/12/worlds-first-successfu... http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/womb-transplant-patient-derya-sert-loses-baby-211659723.html http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/womb-transplant-patien...

steve_barham 13y ago

I'm not sure why this article has been published in 2013; it seems to stem from the late 1990s, with it's speculation on the widespread use of technology 'by 2000': "I wouldn’t want to push back the gestational age limit,” Shaffer says. ”I want to eliminate the damage.” He says he believes that this technology may become the standard. By the year 2000, these techniques may be available in large centers" Picking one of the researchers named in the project (Yoshinori Kuwabara) suggests that the article originates somewhere between 1997 and 2000. http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/genbio/olc_linkedcontent/bioethics_cases/g-bioe-17.htm http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/genbio/olc_linkedcontent/bioethic... - describes his artificial womb technology from 1997 - published in 2000 but indicates that the researcher has died

chillax 13y ago
This is also from Kuwabara (1987): http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3619696 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3619696 And some follow up research I think: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3054922/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3054922/
mrcharles 13y ago
It's a copy paste from the New York Times website.

chollida1 13y ago

Not sure what's going on with the title, but the matrix was released in 1999 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/ so I'm not sure just how an article from 1996 could reference the movie. I guess I'm being too pedantic here:)

svantana 13y ago
The linked article was published last year, although the entire article body is copied from a 1996 NYT article titled "The Artificial Womb Is Born". Case closed...
clever_fish 13y ago
This appears to be an example of the magic of plagiarism.

gadders 13y ago

I can see this happening one day. Hopefully it will be a way for otherwise-aborted foetuses to be routed to appreciative infertile couples.

nico_h 13y ago

Anyone has any idea about how far this research is nowadays? The applications could be life saving beyond neonatology: - Pregnant women being diagnosed with illness that would threaten the baby. - Pregnant women being diagnosed with illness for which the cure would threaten the baby. - Pregnant women in very serious accidents (mother dying, such a device could save the baby). - Infertile couples not wanting to use a surrogate mother. - Like "alexeisadeski3" said, gay couples wanting to have a baby (but then, which one gets to be the biological father?). In the crazy science department, this would render the cloning of extinct species more viable. Unfortunately, it could also reduce the hurdles to create genetically modified beings.

guard-of-terra 13y ago
What's wrong with creating genetically modified beings? Some of my genes blow and I don't want to pass those on children.