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The entire West is complicit. Pretending it is just America ensures the status quo remains in place. Also look up the word tyranny, it doesn't mean whatever you

The entire West is complicit. Pretending it is just America ensures the status quo remains in place. Also look up the word tyranny, it doesn't mean whatever you want it to.

fit2rule 13y ago
You look up the word tyranny - it absolutely applies to the NSA situation! And just saying 'others do it too' isn't enough to weasle out of the fact that the USA spends far, far, far more energy and effort on establishing its tyranny - militarily and technologically - than any other country. Fact is, 'others' would like to live in a world where we don't have to deal with secret injections at the whim of a politician in our lives. Some of us would like to build companies to compete with the American hegemony, and some of us would very much like to reduce the power that the military-industrial tyrants currently ruling America have over the worlds' population. We're not happy having to deal with American pixy-dust solutions to the problem that they're not in control ..
- bananacurve 13y ago
  It's not "others do it too" it is that the entire West has a shared security model and Europe has outsourced much of its defense. http://cphpost.dk/news/denmark-is-one-of-the-nsas-9-eyes.7611.html http://cphpost.dk/news/denmark-is-one-of-the-nsas-9-eyes.761... >Some of us would like to build companies to compete with the American hegemony And you think the NSA is stopping you, well I don't know what to say to that.
  - fit2rule 13y ago
    "Entire West"? You're showing your prejudice. Not everyone in the Western world is content to bend over for American tyranny. And you think the NSA won't interfere, should I start up a company that will compete with the US? They sure will. This is why there is such heat on this subject, duh .. why compete with the American Industrial Spook Empire, if they can inject code into your systems, remotely, without detection. If they can inspect all the packets, wherever. If they decide, after I become successful at something that might impact an American-Industrial Giant's applecart, to use my neighbours router to hide their destruction of my business? Screw that. I don't want to hear an excuse - I want to hear a solution, from our American friends. Damn right I want a revolution!
    - bananacurve 13y ago
      Shouldn't you be out on a ledge somewhere?
      - fit2rule 13y ago
        Shouldn't you be building bombs to prop up your economy?
        BrandonMarc 13y ago
        Y'all make a cute couple. Please invite me to the wedding!
        fit2rule 13y ago
        I think this thread is a manifestation of the broader trap that we are in as a culture, in that we cannot seem to break out of the dialectic-materialist mode of argument, even though its not the only way we can form a consensus..

The entire West is complicit. Pretending it is just America ensures the status quo remains in place. Also look up the word tyranny, it doesn't mean whatever you want it to.

fit2rule 13y ago

You look up the word tyranny - it absolutely applies to the NSA situation! And just saying 'others do it too' isn't enough to weasle out of the fact that the USA spends far, far, far more energy and effort on establishing its tyranny - militarily and technologically - than any other country. Fact is, 'others' would like to live in a world where we don't have to deal with secret injections at the whim of a politician in our lives. Some of us would like to build companies to compete with the American hegemony, and some of us would very much like to reduce the power that the military-industrial tyrants currently ruling America have over the worlds' population. We're not happy having to deal with American pixy-dust solutions to the problem that they're not in control ..

bananacurve 13y ago
It's not "others do it too" it is that the entire West has a shared security model and Europe has outsourced much of its defense. http://cphpost.dk/news/denmark-is-one-of-the-nsas-9-eyes.7611.html http://cphpost.dk/news/denmark-is-one-of-the-nsas-9-eyes.761... >Some of us would like to build companies to compete with the American hegemony And you think the NSA is stopping you, well I don't know what to say to that.
- fit2rule 13y ago
  "Entire West"? You're showing your prejudice. Not everyone in the Western world is content to bend over for American tyranny. And you think the NSA won't interfere, should I start up a company that will compete with the US? They sure will. This is why there is such heat on this subject, duh .. why compete with the American Industrial Spook Empire, if they can inject code into your systems, remotely, without detection. If they can inspect all the packets, wherever. If they decide, after I become successful at something that might impact an American-Industrial Giant's applecart, to use my neighbours router to hide their destruction of my business? Screw that. I don't want to hear an excuse - I want to hear a solution, from our American friends. Damn right I want a revolution!
  - bananacurve 13y ago
    Shouldn't you be out on a ledge somewhere?
    - fit2rule 13y ago
      Shouldn't you be building bombs to prop up your economy?
      - BrandonMarc 13y ago
        Y'all make a cute couple. Please invite me to the wedding!
        fit2rule 13y ago
        I think this thread is a manifestation of the broader trap that we are in as a culture, in that we cannot seem to break out of the dialectic-materialist mode of argument, even though its not the only way we can form a consensus..