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I don't think IQ is same as speed of thought. I think IQ is defined ability to adapting to various environmental challenges. Again I don't think that having tw

by Ygg2 13y ago

I don't think IQ is same as speed of thought. I think IQ is defined ability to adapting to various environmental challenges. Again I don't think that having twice as many experiences is going to help. Sure you have twice as many experiences and twice as many thoughts but you still require time to sort those experiences into meaningful information. Basically if your computer was twice as fast at absorbing information, it means instead of X information it absorbs 2X information. Then when it process it it process 2X information and 2Y speed of processing information, you'd get same performance overall. Parallelization again yields only good results on problems that are parallelizable. Each node in a parallel network yields diminishing returns (i.e. The Mythical Man Month) because - surprise now there is more communication than processing. I mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_creativity#Stephen_L._Thaler.27s_work_on_a_unified_model_of_creativity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_creativity#Stephe... Thaler's work on the subject indicate that creativity might be actually a byproduct of damage/noise done to neurons, i.e. imperfections and noise. So we make a perfect super fast computer with average intelligence that can't think of a solution to fix their predicament. I think we are 100 years from modelling a proper brain simulation with all forty ion canals and various other subsystems. Super human AI is probably farther than that. We right now (presumably) know all about the routes of the brain. But that is like saying that because you've been on all highways in Japan you have visited the entirety of Japan's mainland.

Houshalter 13y ago
If you run your brain on a computer that is twice as fast, you will get twice as much done in the same amount of time. In this case it is the AI that is running faster, as it builds faster computers to run on. Some people believe we can have brain simulations much sooner than that at the current rate, but I would argue we will have other forms of AI even before that. We didn't build airplanes by modelling birds.
- Ygg2 13y ago
  Right and a computer with twice as fast CPU but same amount of memory will be twice as fast. Except it won't because some tasks are memory heavy and IMO discovery of novel theories probably requires both and something else. We'll have lots of little specialized "Intelligence" like language recognition, or tax fraud detection, or synthesizing perfectly spoken human language, or maybe even writing small CRUD applications etc. But the thing is human like IQ isn't akin to trying to make airplanes, but making birds. Making super human AI is akin to wanting to make huge birds. That can transport us. To stars. If human AI happens it will be a fluke or result of long evolution. Super human AI will happen almost likely by evolution from AI.

by Ygg2 13y ago

Houshalter 13y ago

If you run your brain on a computer that is twice as fast, you will get twice as much done in the same amount of time. In this case it is the AI that is running faster, as it builds faster computers to run on. Some people believe we can have brain simulations much sooner than that at the current rate, but I would argue we will have other forms of AI even before that. We didn't build airplanes by modelling birds.

Ygg2 13y ago
Right and a computer with twice as fast CPU but same amount of memory will be twice as fast. Except it won't because some tasks are memory heavy and IMO discovery of novel theories probably requires both and something else. We'll have lots of little specialized "Intelligence" like language recognition, or tax fraud detection, or synthesizing perfectly spoken human language, or maybe even writing small CRUD applications etc. But the thing is human like IQ isn't akin to trying to make airplanes, but making birds. Making super human AI is akin to wanting to make huge birds. That can transport us. To stars. If human AI happens it will be a fluke or result of long evolution. Super human AI will happen almost likely by evolution from AI.