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Its amazing money for someone living in India, but the guy in question was moving to America. If he's good enough for them to want him to work in the U.S., they

by phaus 13y ago

Its amazing money for someone living in India, but the guy in question was moving to America. If he's good enough for them to want him to work in the U.S., they should be willing to pay him appropriately to do so.

alexeisadeski3 13y ago
If the worker in question accepted the offer, then if seems that the pay was appropriate.
- phaus 13y ago
  That's a ridiculous statement. I recently took a job that pays 15% less than I was making, which was already much lower than I should be making, because it was either that or have my family get evicted from our home when we can't afford to pay rent. Just because someone is getting screwed doesn't mean they can avoid it. I'll definitely be looking for something better, but until I find it I don't really have any good options. I'm sure someone trying to leave India is in a similar situation.
- rajeevk 13y ago
  The worker might not be aware of actual living cost in America.
  - alexeisadeski3 13y ago
    Many people work in the US for far less than $50k/yr and have enough left over for remittances.
res0nat0r 13y ago
Not quite sure if this is illegal though. I switched from the helpdesk at my first job to being a senior sysadmin working with the highest paid people on site for my gig. My company wanted to give me ~2% raises a year from the helpdesk wage to what was the average for my new position, vs. bumping me up to the avg salary for the new position when I switched teams. So I would have worked side by site with my peers for ~10 years to catch up to what I should have been paid walking in the door. Since they wouldn't pay me what I should have been worth I quit.
- busterarm 13y ago
  Experiences similar to yours are the biggest reason I'm abandoning a 10+ year career along the same path. Everyone that I've ever known in helpdesk or admin has been completely shit on by an employer with regard to compensation; myself included. I'd say it probably happens more frequently than 1/3 of the time too.
- walshemj 13y ago
  Its Screamingly illegal. Ask yourself if say worker from the south say moved to a California and a company policy paid blacks less than whites - the courts woudl crucify them
  - res0nat0r 13y ago
    I think the email is being latched on as a motivator too much in this case (because Oracle is obviously evil). The policy more likely is: We pay X dollars for position Y in the USA, and less than X dollars for position Y in India per company policy. There isn't anything illegal about that. Also there isn't anything illegal about not bumping up his salary if he moved from India to the USA (even though I don't agree with this).
    - walshemj 13y ago
      And we we pay X-20% in the USA for non whites for the same job.
      - alexeisadeski3 13y ago
        Pretty sure whites are paid less than east Asians for same job in US. Interestingly, the US Supreme Court ruled Asian Indians to be Caucasian, probably white, but not really white. Pretty tragicomic stuff, the old race based citizenship requirements. http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5076/ http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5076/

by phaus 13y ago

alexeisadeski3 13y ago

If the worker in question accepted the offer, then if seems that the pay was appropriate.

phaus 13y ago
That's a ridiculous statement. I recently took a job that pays 15% less than I was making, which was already much lower than I should be making, because it was either that or have my family get evicted from our home when we can't afford to pay rent. Just because someone is getting screwed doesn't mean they can avoid it. I'll definitely be looking for something better, but until I find it I don't really have any good options. I'm sure someone trying to leave India is in a similar situation.
rajeevk 13y ago
The worker might not be aware of actual living cost in America.
- alexeisadeski3 13y ago
  Many people work in the US for far less than $50k/yr and have enough left over for remittances.

res0nat0r 13y ago

Not quite sure if this is illegal though. I switched from the helpdesk at my first job to being a senior sysadmin working with the highest paid people on site for my gig. My company wanted to give me ~2% raises a year from the helpdesk wage to what was the average for my new position, vs. bumping me up to the avg salary for the new position when I switched teams. So I would have worked side by site with my peers for ~10 years to catch up to what I should have been paid walking in the door. Since they wouldn't pay me what I should have been worth I quit.

busterarm 13y ago
Experiences similar to yours are the biggest reason I'm abandoning a 10+ year career along the same path. Everyone that I've ever known in helpdesk or admin has been completely shit on by an employer with regard to compensation; myself included. I'd say it probably happens more frequently than 1/3 of the time too.
walshemj 13y ago
Its Screamingly illegal. Ask yourself if say worker from the south say moved to a California and a company policy paid blacks less than whites - the courts woudl crucify them
- res0nat0r 13y ago
  I think the email is being latched on as a motivator too much in this case (because Oracle is obviously evil). The policy more likely is: We pay X dollars for position Y in the USA, and less than X dollars for position Y in India per company policy. There isn't anything illegal about that. Also there isn't anything illegal about not bumping up his salary if he moved from India to the USA (even though I don't agree with this).
  - walshemj 13y ago
    And we we pay X-20% in the USA for non whites for the same job.
    - alexeisadeski3 13y ago
      Pretty sure whites are paid less than east Asians for same job in US. Interestingly, the US Supreme Court ruled Asian Indians to be Caucasian, probably white, but not really white. Pretty tragicomic stuff, the old race based citizenship requirements. http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5076/ http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5076/