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Germany is not a sovereign country, there is no peace contract. "Seeing themselves as close allies" is kinda lol looking from the fact that we are occupied sinc

by igl 13y ago

Germany is not a sovereign country, there is no peace contract. "Seeing themselves as close allies" is kinda lol looking from the fact that we are occupied since 60 years.

f_salmon 13y ago
The fact that Germany still allows the presence and construction of extremely expensive and big NSA surveillance centers (tapping into German infrastructure) such as the "Dagger complex" [0] certainly says a lot with regards to "sovereignty". [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagger_Complex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagger_Complex
- pgeorgi 13y ago
  And just so you don't think this is over soon when they shut down Dagger, they reopen in Wiesbaden-Erbenheim, about 30km north-west of their current location.
- brazzy 13y ago
  "extremely expensive and big"? You're joking, right? Look at the pictures... or are you claiming there's some gigantic underground complex underneath those two small office buildings?
Tomte 13y ago
Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany (http://usa.usembassy.de/etexts/2plusfour8994e.htm http://usa.usembassy.de/etexts/2plusfour8994e.htm): "Welcoming the fact that the German people, freely exercising their right of self-determination, have expressed their will to bring about the unity of Germany as a state so that they will be able to serve the peace of the world as an equal and sovereign partner in a united Europe;" "(1) The French Republic, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America hereby terminate their rights and responsibilities relating to Berlin and to Germany as a whole. As a result, the corresponding, related quadripartite agreements, decisions and practices are terminated and all related Four Power institutions are dissolved." "(2) The United Germany shall have accordingly full sovereignty over its internal and external affairs." Sorry to insert fact...
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by igl 13y ago

Germany is not a sovereign country, there is no peace contract. "Seeing themselves as close allies" is kinda lol looking from the fact that we are occupied since 60 years.

f_salmon 13y ago

The fact that Germany still allows the presence and construction of extremely expensive and big NSA surveillance centers (tapping into German infrastructure) such as the "Dagger complex" [0] certainly says a lot with regards to "sovereignty". [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagger_Complex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagger_Complex

pgeorgi 13y ago
And just so you don't think this is over soon when they shut down Dagger, they reopen in Wiesbaden-Erbenheim, about 30km north-west of their current location.
brazzy 13y ago
"extremely expensive and big"? You're joking, right? Look at the pictures... or are you claiming there's some gigantic underground complex underneath those two small office buildings?

Tomte 13y ago

Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany (http://usa.usembassy.de/etexts/2plusfour8994e.htm http://usa.usembassy.de/etexts/2plusfour8994e.htm): "Welcoming the fact that the German people, freely exercising their right of self-determination, have expressed their will to bring about the unity of Germany as a state so that they will be able to serve the peace of the world as an equal and sovereign partner in a united Europe;" "(1) The French Republic, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America hereby terminate their rights and responsibilities relating to Berlin and to Germany as a whole. As a result, the corresponding, related quadripartite agreements, decisions and practices are terminated and all related Four Power institutions are dissolved." "(2) The United Germany shall have accordingly full sovereignty over its internal and external affairs." Sorry to insert fact...

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