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I've been interested in learning Seaside for some time, but the one time I downloaded and looked at Squeak, I couldn't make heads or tails of it. I know I shoul
by gcv 17y ago
I've been interested in learning Seaside for some time, but the one time I downloaded and looked at Squeak, I couldn't make heads or tails of it. I know I should probably have made more effort to sit down and plough through documentation in detail, but... well, it's hypocritical for an Emacs user to say so, but the whole thing looked incredibly dated, alien, and unattractive.
For the Smalltalk and Seaside experts here: is there a Smalltalk environment which supports Seaside, (ideally) runs on a Mac and doesn't make me learn a whole new set of UI conventions, keyboard shortcuts, and so on? (I'll accept a Windows or Unix environment I can run in a VM.) It does not have to be free or open-source, but must have a free trial version I can play with.
- Elepsis 17y agoI actually have a fair bit of experience with Squeak from college, but most of that experience tells me to stay as far away as possible. So I second this question: Anyone use Seaside on a decent Smalltalk environment?
- musiciangames 17y agoHi gcv, I would try the Seaside one click experience on this page: http://www.seaside.st/download/squeak http://www.seaside.st/download/squeak 34.7MB - just extract and double click. A picture of the UI here (300K): http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2518/3745940640_d0c6c8062f_o_d.png http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2518/3745940640_d0c6c8062f_o_... To get a feel, you could look at: http://localhost:8080/seaside/examples/examplebrowser http://localhost:8080/seaside/examples/examplebrowser (use the pulldown at the top left) and http://localhost:8080/seaside/tests/scriptaculous http://localhost:8080/seaside/tests/scriptaculous Good luck, ...Stan edit - It's on Pharo, which is essentially a version of Squeak completely cleaned up. All free under MIT licence