For music, I can go as low as 128kbps MP3 without noticing much of a difference, and 192kbps without noticing any difference. For movies, I've always been perf

For music, I can go as low as 128kbps MP3 without noticing much of a difference, and 192kbps without noticing any difference. For movies, I've always been perfectly happy with DVD recodes into 700MB XviD. Could probably go much lower if they were recoding from a lossless master and using H.265. For most things, the Bluray/1080p quality jump reveals details I don't want to see, like how caked on actor makeup is, and all of their skin complexion issues. Great for nature shows, though. The cutoff points for me are 64kbps Shoutcasts and telesyncs. At that point, the quality is so bad that it makes me dislike the music or movie I am watching.