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> forced You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

by tesmar2 13y ago

wernercd 13y ago
Depends... He could live somewhere that he can't get access to legal copies of TV shows he wants to watch (Some TV shows take months, if ever, to show up locally). Or live somewhere like Australia where everything costs prohibitively more than elsewhere. If I want a TV show - Say House of Cards - and it's not available, or it's available much later than elsewhere, or it's prohibitively more pricey... They want the show and the only reasonable way to get it... then it will "force" people who want it to Piracy.
- k-mcgrady 13y ago
  >> "They want the show and the only reasonable way to get it... then it will "force" people who want it to Piracy." I would very much like a Ferrari California. It's unlikely I will ever be able to afford one - it is prohibitively expensive for me. I am not being forced to steal it. I understand like a rational human being should that if I can't afford something or it isn't available to me and it isn't essential to my survival I have no right to take it. I know that physical theft analogies aren't very good when comparing to piracy but seriously - you are not being forced to do anything. You make a choice to steal it. Whether that's morally right or wrong is your decision to make.
  - talmand 13y ago
    No, I think it's more the role of the victim of the theft to decide whether it was morally wrong or not. Otherwise, yes, this idea of being "forced" to pirate something they want but don't have easy access to seems a rather silly statement.
  - angersock 13y ago
    First, the show is being given away for free elsewhere--it is mere accident of geography that the person can't access it. Second, stealing implies that the person being stolen from can't access it anymore--which is clearly not the case here. Stealing is the wrong framework to use here.
- jonhendry 13y ago
  You seem to have confused "wants" with "needs".

> forced You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

by tesmar2 13y ago

> forced You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Depends... He could live somewhere that he can't get access to legal copies of TV shows he wants to watch (Some TV shows take months, if ever, to show up locally). Or live somewhere like Australia where everything costs prohibitively more than elsewhere. If I want a TV show - Say House of Cards - and it's not available, or it's available much later than elsewhere, or it's prohibitively more pricey... They want the show and the only reasonable way to get it... then it will "force" people who want it to Piracy.

k-mcgrady 13y ago
>> "They want the show and the only reasonable way to get it... then it will "force" people who want it to Piracy." I would very much like a Ferrari California. It's unlikely I will ever be able to afford one - it is prohibitively expensive for me. I am not being forced to steal it. I understand like a rational human being should that if I can't afford something or it isn't available to me and it isn't essential to my survival I have no right to take it. I know that physical theft analogies aren't very good when comparing to piracy but seriously - you are not being forced to do anything. You make a choice to steal it. Whether that's morally right or wrong is your decision to make.
- talmand 13y ago
  No, I think it's more the role of the victim of the theft to decide whether it was morally wrong or not. Otherwise, yes, this idea of being "forced" to pirate something they want but don't have easy access to seems a rather silly statement.
- angersock 13y ago
  First, the show is being given away for free elsewhere--it is mere accident of geography that the person can't access it. Second, stealing implies that the person being stolen from can't access it anymore--which is clearly not the case here. Stealing is the wrong framework to use here.
jonhendry 13y ago
You seem to have confused "wants" with "needs".