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Actually watching TNG for the first time now. If they want data, they ask the Computer. If they want analysis, they ask Data. Holodeck characters seem to have b

by thret 13y ago

Actually watching TNG for the first time now. If they want data, they ask the Computer. If they want analysis, they ask Data. Holodeck characters seem to have better reasoning capabilities than the Computer! I find it very odd.

anigbrowl 13y ago
Yes, it's an ongoing joke here too - we watched all of TNG last year and are meandering through Voyager and DS9 this year. The Star Trek computer feels rather like a mashup of Wikipedia and Wolfram Alpha, which is encouraging - but it is a bit better at handling interative requests to refine the scope.
- salgernon 13y ago
  Just would like to mention: we watched star trek the animated series (1974ish) over the Christmas break and we were really surprised. The animation is cheesy but the stories are way better than they had any right to be for a Saturday morning cartoon.
  - anigbrowl 13y ago
    It's the coked-up jazz soundtrack that I found hard to handle :-)
jotm 13y ago
Probably because most of the computer's processing power is dedicated to running those holodeck simulations :-)
noblethrasher 13y ago
Non-sapience of the main computer might be a UX feature, since being under the constant observation of a sapient AI could be... disquieting. It could also be a security feature whereby they keep a firewall between the semi-sapient AIs on the holodeck and the non-sapient AI that runs the ship. That would explain why the crew was emphatically not cool with Geordi's proposal to turn over the ship's navigation to the computer in the episode "Booby Trap".
- cpeterso 13y ago
  Perhaps the Federation's computer designers are hesitant to make starship computers too autonomous after the incident with Dr. Richard Daystrom's M-5 computer in the TOS episode "The Ultimate Computer": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Computer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Computer
- stan_rogers 13y ago
  Indeed, in the episode Emergence[1], the ship decided it had better things to do with its time end energy than attend to the desires of its little organic parasites. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_...

by thret 13y ago

anigbrowl 13y ago

Yes, it's an ongoing joke here too - we watched all of TNG last year and are meandering through Voyager and DS9 this year. The Star Trek computer feels rather like a mashup of Wikipedia and Wolfram Alpha, which is encouraging - but it is a bit better at handling interative requests to refine the scope.

salgernon 13y ago
Just would like to mention: we watched star trek the animated series (1974ish) over the Christmas break and we were really surprised. The animation is cheesy but the stories are way better than they had any right to be for a Saturday morning cartoon.
- anigbrowl 13y ago
  It's the coked-up jazz soundtrack that I found hard to handle :-)

jotm 13y ago

Probably because most of the computer's processing power is dedicated to running those holodeck simulations :-)

noblethrasher 13y ago

Non-sapience of the main computer might be a UX feature, since being under the constant observation of a sapient AI could be... disquieting. It could also be a security feature whereby they keep a firewall between the semi-sapient AIs on the holodeck and the non-sapient AI that runs the ship. That would explain why the crew was emphatically not cool with Geordi's proposal to turn over the ship's navigation to the computer in the episode "Booby Trap".

cpeterso 13y ago
Perhaps the Federation's computer designers are hesitant to make starship computers too autonomous after the incident with Dr. Richard Daystrom's M-5 computer in the TOS episode "The Ultimate Computer": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Computer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Computer
stan_rogers 13y ago
Indeed, in the episode Emergence[1], the ship decided it had better things to do with its time end energy than attend to the desires of its little organic parasites. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_...