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The Web frankly just isn't evolving as quickly as mobile app platforms. HTML5 feels like ancient history, despite not even becoming a final recommendation yet a

by nly 13y ago

The Web frankly just isn't evolving as quickly as mobile app platforms. HTML5 feels like ancient history, despite not even becoming a final recommendation yet and, imho, the rise of the gigantic javascript frameworks just shows the existing platform is sorely lacking... all it really demonstrates is the power of having a client you can push code to easily. Where's my standard, secure browser UI and API for secure payments using my credit card? We've been using the web to shop for 20 years and it still sucks. Where's decent standard authentication worthy of this millennium, let alone this decade? Why don't we yet have date picker and other form widgets that actually work across browsers? Why are bespoke markup languages like MathML and SVG actually failing or seeing less and less adoption?

teleclimber 13y ago
When things are new they tend to evolve very fast. It's normal. The web is evolving nicely for something that's 20+ years old. By the way why do we need a "standard UI" for taking credit cards? Is there a single open platform out there that has a "Standard UI" for making payments?
- spo81rty 13y ago
  I prefer to use PayPal on websites that accept it so I don't have to go find my wallet. I buy stuff on Amazon instead of other sites because it already has all my info and I don't have to type it. Making processing payments as simple as possible helps streamline them and make them easier on the consumer.
trycatch 13y ago
> Why are bespoke markup languages like MathML and SVG actually failing or seeing less and less adoption? ? Native MathML is soon going to be used by Wikipedia by default [1]. SVG adoption increased ~4x in the last year [2]. [1] http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/frederic/?post/2014/01/13/Improvements-to-Mathematics-on-Wikipedia http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/frederic/?post/2... [2] http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/im-svg/all/all http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/im-svg/all/all
- nly 13y ago
  MathML isn't supported at all by IE, Chrome or Opera (even pre-Chromium port?) and Google have said they don't intend on supporting it natively. This means you're looking at e.g. MathJax to plug the hole with Javascript. Using huge JavaScript frameworks to create complex apps is one thing, but its rather sad when you have to use them just to create documents. Link [2] also shows that more sites are using BMP than SVG. So while I may be wrong on adoption waining, I'm not exactly pleased with the way rich formats are progressing on the web... it's fairly easy to go from 0.25% coverage to 0.1% coverage.

by nly 13y ago

teleclimber 13y ago

When things are new they tend to evolve very fast. It's normal. The web is evolving nicely for something that's 20+ years old. By the way why do we need a "standard UI" for taking credit cards? Is there a single open platform out there that has a "Standard UI" for making payments?

spo81rty 13y ago
I prefer to use PayPal on websites that accept it so I don't have to go find my wallet. I buy stuff on Amazon instead of other sites because it already has all my info and I don't have to type it. Making processing payments as simple as possible helps streamline them and make them easier on the consumer.

trycatch 13y ago

> Why are bespoke markup languages like MathML and SVG actually failing or seeing less and less adoption? ? Native MathML is soon going to be used by Wikipedia by default [1]. SVG adoption increased ~4x in the last year [2]. [1] http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/frederic/?post/2014/01/13/Improvements-to-Mathematics-on-Wikipedia http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/frederic/?post/2... [2] http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/im-svg/all/all http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/im-svg/all/all

nly 13y ago
MathML isn't supported at all by IE, Chrome or Opera (even pre-Chromium port?) and Google have said they don't intend on supporting it natively. This means you're looking at e.g. MathJax to plug the hole with Javascript. Using huge JavaScript frameworks to create complex apps is one thing, but its rather sad when you have to use them just to create documents. Link [2] also shows that more sites are using BMP than SVG. So while I may be wrong on adoption waining, I'm not exactly pleased with the way rich formats are progressing on the web... it's fairly easy to go from 0.25% coverage to 0.1% coverage.