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Even leaving that issue[1] aside, if the W3C were to endorse EME, then for the first time in its history the Open Web would not be implementable by anyone who c

Even leaving that issue[1] aside, if the W3C were to endorse EME, then for the first time in its history the Open Web would not be implementable by anyone who chose to do so. That is the real problem here, not incompatibility with any particular software license. [1] which is pretty much the reason for the existence of the FOSS movement, so I'm sure you'll understand the inflexibility there :)

aidenn0 13y ago
What do you mean by "Open Web"? AFAICT the term "Open Web Platform" is only 3 years old, and before that "open web" (not capitalized) just meant all the freely implementable standards, which makes your first sentence circular. We've had non-free things in the web since GIFs, and flash is currently used for a lot of the things that EME will be used for. I don't endorse EME on principle, but it is inevitable at this point, whether or not the W3C endorses it.
- duncan_bayne 13y ago
  http://www.w3.org/standards/ http://www.w3.org/standards/ W3C standards define an Open Web Platform for application development that has the unprecedented potential to enable developers to build rich interactive experiences, powered by vast data stores, that are available on any device. http://www.w3.org/Consortium/mission.html http://www.w3.org/Consortium/mission.html The social value of the Web is that it enables human communication, commerce, and opportunities to share knowledge. One of W3C's primary goals is to make these benefits available to all people, whatever their hardware, software, network infrastructure, native language, culture, geographical location, or physical or mental ability.
  - rimantas 13y ago
    Now tell me, how adding DRM disables all the open web bits.
    - yarrel 13y ago
      Now tell me how the landmine in the field prevents grazing everywhere in it.
  - aidenn0 13y ago
    Thanks for pointing to that. Clearly DRM violates the "available on any device" part of OWP, since some devies will not be able to implement DRM. Like I said, I'm opposed to this, I just wasn't sure if it was the w3c's job to make this happen (In any event the web hasn't been truly open since 1993 when NCSA Mosaic added the patent-encumbered GIF format, so an open web is a goal to strive for rather than something we have ever actually had).

aidenn0 13y ago

What do you mean by "Open Web"? AFAICT the term "Open Web Platform" is only 3 years old, and before that "open web" (not capitalized) just meant all the freely implementable standards, which makes your first sentence circular. We've had non-free things in the web since GIFs, and flash is currently used for a lot of the things that EME will be used for. I don't endorse EME on principle, but it is inevitable at this point, whether or not the W3C endorses it.

duncan_bayne 13y ago
http://www.w3.org/standards/ http://www.w3.org/standards/ W3C standards define an Open Web Platform for application development that has the unprecedented potential to enable developers to build rich interactive experiences, powered by vast data stores, that are available on any device. http://www.w3.org/Consortium/mission.html http://www.w3.org/Consortium/mission.html The social value of the Web is that it enables human communication, commerce, and opportunities to share knowledge. One of W3C's primary goals is to make these benefits available to all people, whatever their hardware, software, network infrastructure, native language, culture, geographical location, or physical or mental ability.
- rimantas 13y ago
  Now tell me, how adding DRM disables all the open web bits.
  - yarrel 13y ago
    Now tell me how the landmine in the field prevents grazing everywhere in it.
- aidenn0 13y ago
  Thanks for pointing to that. Clearly DRM violates the "available on any device" part of OWP, since some devies will not be able to implement DRM. Like I said, I'm opposed to this, I just wasn't sure if it was the w3c's job to make this happen (In any event the web hasn't been truly open since 1993 when NCSA Mosaic added the patent-encumbered GIF format, so an open web is a goal to strive for rather than something we have ever actually had).