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Please, no more sarcasm. you've filled this thread with confusion.

by cabbeer 13y ago

psbp 13y ago
Sorry, I thought for those in the know, every point would be remarkably false. 1) http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/11/19/hell-freezes-over-the-moto-x-on-verizon-gets-the-first-kitkat-update-and-its-starting-today/ http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/11/19/hell-freezes-over-th... 2) http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/09/13/motorola-droid-razr-m-review-this-is-what-budget-phones-are-like-now-where-do-i-sign-up/#motoblur http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/09/13/motorola-droid-razr-... 3) https://www.abiresearch.com/press/googlemotorola-mobilitys-moto-x-outpaces-competiti https://www.abiresearch.com/press/googlemotorola-mobilitys-m... 4) http://www.anandtech.com/show/7586/motorola-moto-g-review/8 http://www.anandtech.com/show/7586/motorola-moto-g-review/8
- kibibu 13y ago
  Not everybody follows the details of OS version updates on Motorola phones.
  - enraged_camel 13y ago
    Yep. I'll go even further: in this case, "not everybody" means "nobody."
    - shitlord 13y ago
      Nobody, aside from the people on XDA and /r/Android. And maybe a few on HN.
      - benbojangles 13y ago
        If i'm not mistaken, Google has been dipping it's toes in home automation for some time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_PowerMeter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_PowerMeter http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/12/17/google-dipping-its-toe-into-home-automation-with-energysense-thermostat-leak/ http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/12/17/google-dipping-its-toe-int... To acquire home statistics. Can you imagine the personal data gathering? And the $ value attached to that data? All sweetened with sugar for you to buy the product, connect, and give your data for free. Oh how I would love to be a fly on the wall and look at who exactly is pulling these strings. Government? - Which ones Private equity? - Which sticky hands Other Countries? - Which ones & what would the data be worth to them? This is why I disapprove of services such as: Google glass, Home automation data gathering, Car & transport data gathering. I'm not an 'all-or-nothing' kind of guy, but sheesh.... And that 23andMe DNA gathering product: https://www.23andme.com/ https://www.23andme.com/ It's like a totalitarian wet dream.
        psbp 13y ago
        Yeah, if you're on the cynical side of the whole "Google is co-opted by the government to help track and control the populace" idea, which you have no reason not to be after the NSA leaks, it is absolutely terrifying.
        benbojangles 13y ago
        Yeah, you've got to be really careful about cynicism. It's very easy to venture into David Icke territory. I can't help but feel that this is a funded attempt to subvert power away from OPEC nations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPEC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPEC If so, could be to help these guys: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Sisters_(oil_companies) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Sisters_(oil_companies) It says in this article:http://ow.ly/syrfO http://ow.ly/syrfO "Google is a widely-known proponent of “green” energy, promoting low-power data centres and clean grid-based power whenever possible." Excluding "It is good for mankind & the Earth", Why is it important to 'reduce' in western nations, when so many developing/upcoming/industrial/manufacturing/oil nations are laughing at this policy? Something's up. And it isn't share price. Sorry for my conspiracy feelings -My instinct tells me there will be comments about being overly-conspiratorial (If so, this will suggest my instincts are correct), but I'm more than worried about my children's children and their future. For some reason in these Austere times, there's a squeeze going on which is being driven by more than you and I are presently being told.
        IgorPartola 13y ago
        I am definitely not into conspiracy theories, but: if Google is really doing this out of best intentions which I can totally buy, and Google has no interest in spying on anyone personally, but only in selling ads, which I can also buy, I think it is still a problem. The thing is that once every household has a smart Internet connected gadget with eyes and ears and a way to load software onto it remotely, it is just too big a target for someone like the NSA not to go after. Why not load spy software on these just in case? Oh and it can all be legal and it can be made illegal for Google or Nest or whoever to talk about it. The analogy here is something like the OnStar system in recent cars. I don't think that many people who made it happen primarily did so to give the banks a way to find and repo cars, but once a large percentage of cars have this system it does enable banks to do it much more efficiently. Not to mention what the authorities can do with these same systems.
- logicallee 13y ago
  just write: >Yeah, motorola products have completely gone down the toilet after that acquisition. They were so great before with fast updates and a wonderful skin of android, and now they're either non-innovative or way too overpriced for the value. /s it would have saved http://imgur.com/2iha7bO http://imgur.com/2iha7bO
DominikR 13y ago
Well, I think sarcasm is the appropriate response to a top comment that contains no information besides "I don't like this". He could have told us why he doesn't like this, or give us an example of another company that was acquired by Google where the result was bad for consumers, then at least we could have had a discussion about this. But this way it's only "I don't like this" vs "I like it" and there are definitely more interesting discussions with more information in this thread that could have been upvoted.
- igreulich 13y ago
  Motorola not withstanding, Google has a history of killing/closing well-loved products (profitability aside). While I am not upset by this acquisition, I can certainly understand the sentiment. I can't speak to validity of the top comment being only that aforementioned opinion, nor am I suggesting that sarcasm was inappropriate, but I think this only highlights the upvote/downvote mechanism as an I agree/disagree button more than a add to/ doesn't add to the discussion button.

Please, no more sarcasm. you've filled this thread with confusion.

by cabbeer 13y ago

Please, no more sarcasm. you've filled this thread with confusion.

psbp 13y ago

Sorry, I thought for those in the know, every point would be remarkably false. 1) http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/11/19/hell-freezes-over-the-moto-x-on-verizon-gets-the-first-kitkat-update-and-its-starting-today/ http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/11/19/hell-freezes-over-th... 2) http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/09/13/motorola-droid-razr-m-review-this-is-what-budget-phones-are-like-now-where-do-i-sign-up/#motoblur http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/09/13/motorola-droid-razr-... 3) https://www.abiresearch.com/press/googlemotorola-mobilitys-moto-x-outpaces-competiti https://www.abiresearch.com/press/googlemotorola-mobilitys-m... 4) http://www.anandtech.com/show/7586/motorola-moto-g-review/8 http://www.anandtech.com/show/7586/motorola-moto-g-review/8

kibibu 13y ago
Not everybody follows the details of OS version updates on Motorola phones.
- enraged_camel 13y ago
  Yep. I'll go even further: in this case, "not everybody" means "nobody."
  - shitlord 13y ago
    Nobody, aside from the people on XDA and /r/Android. And maybe a few on HN.
    - benbojangles 13y ago
      If i'm not mistaken, Google has been dipping it's toes in home automation for some time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_PowerMeter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_PowerMeter http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/12/17/google-dipping-its-toe-into-home-automation-with-energysense-thermostat-leak/ http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/12/17/google-dipping-its-toe-int... To acquire home statistics. Can you imagine the personal data gathering? And the $ value attached to that data? All sweetened with sugar for you to buy the product, connect, and give your data for free. Oh how I would love to be a fly on the wall and look at who exactly is pulling these strings. Government? - Which ones Private equity? - Which sticky hands Other Countries? - Which ones & what would the data be worth to them? This is why I disapprove of services such as: Google glass, Home automation data gathering, Car & transport data gathering. I'm not an 'all-or-nothing' kind of guy, but sheesh.... And that 23andMe DNA gathering product: https://www.23andme.com/ https://www.23andme.com/ It's like a totalitarian wet dream.
      - psbp 13y ago
        Yeah, if you're on the cynical side of the whole "Google is co-opted by the government to help track and control the populace" idea, which you have no reason not to be after the NSA leaks, it is absolutely terrifying.
        benbojangles 13y ago
        Yeah, you've got to be really careful about cynicism. It's very easy to venture into David Icke territory. I can't help but feel that this is a funded attempt to subvert power away from OPEC nations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPEC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPEC If so, could be to help these guys: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Sisters_(oil_companies) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Sisters_(oil_companies) It says in this article:http://ow.ly/syrfO http://ow.ly/syrfO "Google is a widely-known proponent of “green” energy, promoting low-power data centres and clean grid-based power whenever possible." Excluding "It is good for mankind & the Earth", Why is it important to 'reduce' in western nations, when so many developing/upcoming/industrial/manufacturing/oil nations are laughing at this policy? Something's up. And it isn't share price. Sorry for my conspiracy feelings -My instinct tells me there will be comments about being overly-conspiratorial (If so, this will suggest my instincts are correct), but I'm more than worried about my children's children and their future. For some reason in these Austere times, there's a squeeze going on which is being driven by more than you and I are presently being told.
        IgorPartola 13y ago
        I am definitely not into conspiracy theories, but: if Google is really doing this out of best intentions which I can totally buy, and Google has no interest in spying on anyone personally, but only in selling ads, which I can also buy, I think it is still a problem. The thing is that once every household has a smart Internet connected gadget with eyes and ears and a way to load software onto it remotely, it is just too big a target for someone like the NSA not to go after. Why not load spy software on these just in case? Oh and it can all be legal and it can be made illegal for Google or Nest or whoever to talk about it. The analogy here is something like the OnStar system in recent cars. I don't think that many people who made it happen primarily did so to give the banks a way to find and repo cars, but once a large percentage of cars have this system it does enable banks to do it much more efficiently. Not to mention what the authorities can do with these same systems.
logicallee 13y ago
just write: >Yeah, motorola products have completely gone down the toilet after that acquisition. They were so great before with fast updates and a wonderful skin of android, and now they're either non-innovative or way too overpriced for the value. /s it would have saved http://imgur.com/2iha7bO http://imgur.com/2iha7bO

DominikR 13y ago

Well, I think sarcasm is the appropriate response to a top comment that contains no information besides "I don't like this". He could have told us why he doesn't like this, or give us an example of another company that was acquired by Google where the result was bad for consumers, then at least we could have had a discussion about this. But this way it's only "I don't like this" vs "I like it" and there are definitely more interesting discussions with more information in this thread that could have been upvoted.

igreulich 13y ago
Motorola not withstanding, Google has a history of killing/closing well-loved products (profitability aside). While I am not upset by this acquisition, I can certainly understand the sentiment. I can't speak to validity of the top comment being only that aforementioned opinion, nor am I suggesting that sarcasm was inappropriate, but I think this only highlights the upvote/downvote mechanism as an I agree/disagree button more than a add to/ doesn't add to the discussion button.