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I could get the same benefit from a device for $30 of electronics, and however many hours of my free-time I decide to put into such a project. Which would be a
by ssmoot 13y ago
I could get the same benefit from a device for $30 of electronics, and however many hours of my free-time I decide to put into such a project.
Which would be a lot more than $250 lost, and not a trade I'd be willing to make considering I value my free time with the family a lot more than that.
For me this whole thing misses the point though. Saving money is a sort of minimum expectation. The thing that Nest delivers that the competitors don't is ease of use. The previous 3M and Honeywell thermostats I owned before were not cheap, but their displays were terrible and their UX was the stuff of nightmares.
It took me probably 10 minutes to setup the Nest by comparison and maintenance has been mostly hands-off. It'll tweak the schedule here and there as necessary.
THAT is the value proposition. To throw out the Indiglo monstrosities before it that were inevitably running on some awful schedule because they were too much trouble and came with 50 page instruction manuals in 5 different languages.
I don't have time for that.
So to me, that's why Nest is successful. It might also explain why their smoke detectors are meh to me. Having a nice UX for something I don't actually need to interface with beyond tapping the occasional "ignore" button just isn't very much of a motivation to spend $100.
- Fasebook 13y agoUh, good for you? That is not the value proposition, that is trivial information about your personal life. I don't know why you felt it necessary to try to duplicate a manufactured device by hand, but that is most certainly not the value proposition. The value proposition is that $200 and letting Google extract value from your life by way of energy prices will somehow pay for the fractional energy saved when the device realizes that you work on weekdays.
- ssmoot 13y agoI didn't duplicate anything. That was my rationale behind not doing what you suggested. Honestly, I'm having a lot of trouble following what you're trying to say. Now you're talking about unauthorized data use and Google manipulating energy prices? I guess?
- chronic25 13y agoHe is saying you are a single person with a single use case. Therefore your opinion has little value.
- girvo 13y agoOkay so, you're a troll. And one who doesn't understand what "value proposition" means.
- Fasebook 13y agoI'm a troll because I pointed out how ridiculous his conceptualization of the price is? Ok, I am. With that kind of logic, you can justify spending $10,000,000 on a car because that's a fraction of the price of a manufacturing plant. That is not a "value proposition".
- ssmoot 13y agoNo. It's the opposite. You said I could duplicate the functionality for $30. I said that's only true if you believe the time you'd put into that exercise is worth less than $220. I don't. But your circumstances may be different if you work for $1/day.
- jarek 13y ago> because they were too much trouble and came with 50 page instruction manuals in 5 different languages. Just wondering - is there a problem with different languages?
- ssmoot 13y agoNothing. Just thought it captured the sentiment of obtuse manuals that manage to make what seems like a simple task overly complex.