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Wow. This is completely inexcusable.. what's happening in Mississippi?

by Mizza 13y ago

cjensen 13y ago
The two people who took the test in Mississippi were white males. Pro tip: look at the actual data. The sample sizes are way to small to attempt to draw conclusions like these.
- vonmoltke 13y ago
  We don't know that the two people in Mississippi were white males, because as the note at the top of the spreadsheet says, the College Board does not release information for demographic groups with less than 5 members. That means several of the statements made on the page are not provable using the data provided because the sample sizes are too small. Also, Wyoming should not even be mentioned. I find it somewhat dishonest to talk about states that had no members of X demographic group take a test when nobody in the state took it.
  - sliverstorm 13y ago
    It would be much more interesting to weight the numbers to state demographics. Is anybody surprised that North Dakota or Montanna has low incidence of African Americans taking the test? I hope not, considering they represent only 1.2% and 0.4% of the states, respectively.
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vezzy-fnord 13y ago
Mississippi is the absolute worst state in the entire US, in virtually all demographics. Highest obesity rate, highest incarceration rate, lowest GDP, lowest HDI, highest religiosity, lowest education rankings and so on. http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/28000lk.html http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/28000lk.html
- TallGuyShort 13y ago
  >> highest religiosity Categorizing that as a bad demographic in isolation is just as ignorant as arguing that evolution has no place in a science education.
  - vezzy-fnord 13y ago
    It was more meant to be ironic.
  - dxbydt 13y ago
    So you've never TA'ed a calculus class where you ask the religion major to compute the integral of exp(x) and she says she has no idea, but she'll do well on the exam thanks to Jesus. I have.
    - TallGuyShort 13y ago
      No, but I've been through 8 years of religious education and can hold an intelligent conversation about why evolution and the Big Bang are the same conclusions I would reach as a scientist, so I get a bit miffed when people confuse my faith for irrationality.
      - vezzy-fnord 13y ago
        I get a bit miffed when people confuse my faith for irrationality. By definition it is. Religion contradicts rationalism. What you're doing is compartmentalizing. You're applying certain thought processes and methods of reasoning to everything besides your religion. Regardless, this is not an attack on your belief and I never intended to come off as hostile. What I had in mind were the fundamentalists and fanatics who insist that lack of faith leads to decadence.
        TallGuyShort 13y ago
        >> Religion contradicts rationalism >> You're applying certain thought processes and methods of reasoning to everything besides your religion No - I have reasons for believing everything I do. They're not easily verifiable or repeatable by others, hence not scientific, but I don't just suspend belief or believe because I want to.

Wow. This is completely inexcusable.. what's happening in Mississippi?

by Mizza 13y ago

Wow. This is completely inexcusable.. what's happening in Mississippi?

The two people who took the test in Mississippi were white males. Pro tip: look at the actual data. The sample sizes are way to small to attempt to draw conclusions like these.

vonmoltke 13y ago
We don't know that the two people in Mississippi were white males, because as the note at the top of the spreadsheet says, the College Board does not release information for demographic groups with less than 5 members. That means several of the statements made on the page are not provable using the data provided because the sample sizes are too small. Also, Wyoming should not even be mentioned. I find it somewhat dishonest to talk about states that had no members of X demographic group take a test when nobody in the state took it.
- sliverstorm 13y ago
  It would be much more interesting to weight the numbers to state demographics. Is anybody surprised that North Dakota or Montanna has low incidence of African Americans taking the test? I hope not, considering they represent only 1.2% and 0.4% of the states, respectively.

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vezzy-fnord 13y ago

Mississippi is the absolute worst state in the entire US, in virtually all demographics. Highest obesity rate, highest incarceration rate, lowest GDP, lowest HDI, highest religiosity, lowest education rankings and so on. http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/28000lk.html http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/28000lk.html

TallGuyShort 13y ago
>> highest religiosity Categorizing that as a bad demographic in isolation is just as ignorant as arguing that evolution has no place in a science education.
- vezzy-fnord 13y ago
  It was more meant to be ironic.
- dxbydt 13y ago
  So you've never TA'ed a calculus class where you ask the religion major to compute the integral of exp(x) and she says she has no idea, but she'll do well on the exam thanks to Jesus. I have.
  - TallGuyShort 13y ago
    No, but I've been through 8 years of religious education and can hold an intelligent conversation about why evolution and the Big Bang are the same conclusions I would reach as a scientist, so I get a bit miffed when people confuse my faith for irrationality.
    - vezzy-fnord 13y ago
      I get a bit miffed when people confuse my faith for irrationality. By definition it is. Religion contradicts rationalism. What you're doing is compartmentalizing. You're applying certain thought processes and methods of reasoning to everything besides your religion. Regardless, this is not an attack on your belief and I never intended to come off as hostile. What I had in mind were the fundamentalists and fanatics who insist that lack of faith leads to decadence.
      - TallGuyShort 13y ago
        >> Religion contradicts rationalism >> You're applying certain thought processes and methods of reasoning to everything besides your religion No - I have reasons for believing everything I do. They're not easily verifiable or repeatable by others, hence not scientific, but I don't just suspend belief or believe because I want to.