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And OS X doesn't steal Control for menu shortcuts. Control-V (literal) is not the same as Command-V (paste), Control-Z (suspend) is not the same as Command-Z (u
by kps 13y ago
And OS X doesn't steal Control for menu shortcuts. Control-V (literal) is not the same as Command-V (paste), Control-Z (suspend) is not the same as Command-Z (undo), and so on.
X Window software used to get this right, too; Unix workstations generally had another modifier (e.g. Meta, diamond on Suns) since they knew better than to hijack keys people would type in a terminal. It's only the this-is-finally-the-year-of-Linux-on-the-desktop crowd slavishly imitating Microsoft's mistakes that screwed it up.
- philsnow 13y ago"X Window software" hasn't really changed very much in the last couple decades. I use distinct Control, Shift, Meta/Alt, and Hyper keys. The blame lies with "desktop environments", not X. X has plenty of its own problems without getting Gnome's problems heaped on top. Edit: > It's only the this-is-finally-the-year-of-Linux-on-the-desktop crowd slavishly imitating Microsoft's mistakes that screwed it up. Most of the recent garbage they've cargo-culted from Apple (and common software for OS X), not Microsoft. Witness the really shitty reimplementation of Growl, the really shitty (and shamefully unmandated) window menu bar -> system menu bar consolidation.
- kps 13y agoOh, I agree with you — I perhaps should have written something like “*nix workstation software” rather than “X Window software”. I do use a separate Meta as well, and try to avoid programs that can't be configured to use it (GNOME-aligned ones being the most common). And hey, as far as ‘really shitty reimplementations of Growl’ go, even Apple has one now.
- philsnow 13y agoAh, with that edit I agree, with the caveat that I was never exposed very much to ye olde-school Xe applicationse.