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Do you understand how strikes work? It is gasp a form of DISRUPTION. Solidarity with the strikes by not crossing the line improves their chances of success.
by kungfooguru 13y ago
Do you understand how strikes work? It is gasp a form of DISRUPTION. Solidarity with the strikes by not crossing the line improves their chances of success.
- xxpor 13y agoWhat happens when you don't agree with the strike?
- kungfooguru 13y agoThen you can take your chances trying to cross.
- mikeash 13y agoWhy should I care about improving their chances of success?
- kungfooguru 13y agoIf you are a worker you should because improvements eventually expand to non-striking workers in the same field and other fields and because they would do the same for you if you needed support. If you are a capitalist, you wouldn't.
- mikeash 13y agoIt's a big assumption that improvements eventually expand to others. Yes, some have in the past, but that doesn't mean they all do, or all will. There's also a massive unstated assumption that there is an improvement at all. Surely if I happen to disagree with one or both of these assumptions, I can cross a picket line without being a "bad person"?
- hapless 13y agoIf you cross a picket line, you have publicly cast your lot with a particular class. Whether you are a bad person is in the eye of the beholder.
- mikeash 13y agoYou previously said that good people would avoid crossing a picket line out of principle. Now you seem to be saying that the reason to avoid crossing a picket line is because stupid people with a mob mentality might get the wrong message.
- hapless 13y agoI, personally, would consider you a bad person for crossing a picket line. You, or some other person, might feel differently. Whether you accept my assumptions, or the picketers' assumptions, doesn't determine how you will be judged by others.
- mikeash 13y agoWhy would you consider me to be a bad person for crossing a picket line in general?
- kungfooguru 13y agoIn general you are siding with capital. Assuming it isn't a police strike.
- nknighthb 13y agoWhat benefits will spread to me via existing taxi drivers violently maintaining an inefficient and predatory monopoly? This isn't about a 40-hour workweek.
- pessimizer 13y agoDo you want people to tell you why they care, or why you should care? You may be philosophically against all of the labor rights that have been gained through strikes (which are all labor rights), and in that case, you shouldn't care. In fact, in that case you should go out of your way to break strikes like homophobes went out of their way to eat at Chick-Fil-A.
- mikeash 13y agoI'm not philosophically against the labor rights that have been gained through strikes, not at all. But I honestly don't see why that should be related. Just because strikes have been a great tool to achieve important rights doesn't mean every individual strike is that way. If a strike is pointless, stupid, or actively campaigning for something I disagree with, why should I respect it? Every answer I've received so far has been some variant on, "strikes were used to obtain things you now enjoy, so you should respect all strikes." This makes no sense. It's like saying we should respect the NSA because its predecessors helped defeat the Nazis by cracking Enigma.
- kungfooguru 13y agoSure, even I don't support every strike. Like when police go on strike to demand better weapons. But police aren't workers... So, yea.