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"Fractions of the dollar go to the artists, and the archaic content distribution models mean lots of content can't be seen legally without a 100 channels of cab

by chasing 13y ago

"Fractions of the dollar go to the artists, and the archaic content distribution models mean lots of content can't be seen legally without a 100 channels of cable or a $40 DVD." "Now if all TPB did was make it easier for people to OD on Game Of Thrones I'd still be impressed." Jesus Christ. It's not your role to unilaterally "solve" content distribution problems without the consent of the creators. Sorry. And It's not a basic human right that you get to watch Game of Thrones. Now, you can say "I want to watch Game of Thrones and HBO can go fuck themselves, so let's build this alternate internet that lets me do that based on Bitcoin whatever." But don't paint it as some noble calling, aimed at ending censorship or fixing the copyright system or DRM or whatever. The Pirate Bay exists to help people pirate content owned by other people. Fine. But I don't think they're quite the freedom fighters they're portrayed to be. Except as it pertains to their freedom to continue doing this.

d23 13y ago
> And It's not a basic human right that you get to watch Game of Thrones. Sure, I get your point. But let's say there's a TV show that costs $8 for season 1 of the DVD, but $16 to stream it in SD and $24 to stream it in HD. Sure, I don't have to watch it, and it isn't my right, but I can't help but feeling like it's a big "fuck you" to me that they do this. So forgive me if I have little sympathy for them when I decide to go pirate it instead. Not to mention that pirating actually gives me more freedom and flexibility to download and store the content as I see fit.
- sentenza 13y ago
  Here in Germany, the entire television system is somewhat different from the US. Most people do not have what we call "pay TV", but consume only free-TV and DVDs/Blurays. There is no usable streaming service (usable in the sense that it has more than two (!) non-ancient TV series on it). No Hulu, no Netflix. Now with Game of Thrones, what happened is this: The pay-TV group Sky got the rights for it and is showing it with a rather short delay compared to the US date. However, you can't just buy the channel that has GoT, but you have to buy a whole package of channels. That package is rather expensive, since Sky owns several very costly sports transmission licenses. Needless to say, I don't know anybody with a Sky subscription who is not a very devoted sports fan. So for most GoT fans, it is as if you were paying your whole "cable bill" just for that one series. If you decide against that (how could you!), you can of course buy the DVD. The DVD for the third season will be available in March 2014. Yes. One year later. So essentially, you are locked out of the conversation about GoT that is going on on the internet if you want to remain legal without footing the enormous Sky bill. I wonder if there is a firefox extension out there that filters your on-screen text for GoT mentions, since it is absolutely impossible to be one year behind on GoT and spoiler-free. Does anybody still wonder, why GoT was the most torrented thing out there for 2013?
DanBC 13y ago
There are some distribution problems that do need to be fixed because they're just weird and stupid. I can stream a program over 3g using BBC iplayer app. And I cN download that program to watch later if I'm using wifi. But for some reason I can't download the program over 3g. There aren't any rights issues. It's just a weird gap in their delivery.
vidarh 13y ago
IP protection is not a human right either. It's an intentional restriction of freedoms to enrich others. Now, it's perfectly fine to consider that restriction an acceptable trade-off in order to encourage creation, but that's not somehow an inherently more justified position than believing it is not justified.
- oakwhiz 13y ago
  I have the feeling that "intellectual property" and piracy are equally evil.

by chasing 13y ago

d23 13y ago

> And It's not a basic human right that you get to watch Game of Thrones. Sure, I get your point. But let's say there's a TV show that costs $8 for season 1 of the DVD, but $16 to stream it in SD and $24 to stream it in HD. Sure, I don't have to watch it, and it isn't my right, but I can't help but feeling like it's a big "fuck you" to me that they do this. So forgive me if I have little sympathy for them when I decide to go pirate it instead. Not to mention that pirating actually gives me more freedom and flexibility to download and store the content as I see fit.

sentenza 13y ago
Here in Germany, the entire television system is somewhat different from the US. Most people do not have what we call "pay TV", but consume only free-TV and DVDs/Blurays. There is no usable streaming service (usable in the sense that it has more than two (!) non-ancient TV series on it). No Hulu, no Netflix. Now with Game of Thrones, what happened is this: The pay-TV group Sky got the rights for it and is showing it with a rather short delay compared to the US date. However, you can't just buy the channel that has GoT, but you have to buy a whole package of channels. That package is rather expensive, since Sky owns several very costly sports transmission licenses. Needless to say, I don't know anybody with a Sky subscription who is not a very devoted sports fan. So for most GoT fans, it is as if you were paying your whole "cable bill" just for that one series. If you decide against that (how could you!), you can of course buy the DVD. The DVD for the third season will be available in March 2014. Yes. One year later. So essentially, you are locked out of the conversation about GoT that is going on on the internet if you want to remain legal without footing the enormous Sky bill. I wonder if there is a firefox extension out there that filters your on-screen text for GoT mentions, since it is absolutely impossible to be one year behind on GoT and spoiler-free. Does anybody still wonder, why GoT was the most torrented thing out there for 2013?

DanBC 13y ago

There are some distribution problems that do need to be fixed because they're just weird and stupid. I can stream a program over 3g using BBC iplayer app. And I cN download that program to watch later if I'm using wifi. But for some reason I can't download the program over 3g. There aren't any rights issues. It's just a weird gap in their delivery.

vidarh 13y ago

IP protection is not a human right either. It's an intentional restriction of freedoms to enrich others. Now, it's perfectly fine to consider that restriction an acceptable trade-off in order to encourage creation, but that's not somehow an inherently more justified position than believing it is not justified.

oakwhiz 13y ago
I have the feeling that "intellectual property" and piracy are equally evil.