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> It just can't get any better than this. People were saying this in 2010 when it reached dollar parity, in 2011 when it was $20 a pop and they keep saying it

> It just can't get any better than this. People were saying this in 2010 when it reached dollar parity, in 2011 when it was $20 a pop and they keep saying it now. It really means nothing. Also, you're getting downvoted because you're making these hard and fast predictions without substantiating them with anything but pure speculation. If you really believe BTC is about to drop then why don't you put your money where your mouth is and short it? There's a fortune to be made if your predictions turn out to be correct.

kolev 13y ago
A lot of people mix profiting and preaching. If you believe in Bitcoin, you don't necessarily have to support its high price. In fact, the high price and the volatility limit mass adoption, the exponential growth makes many people recognize it as a bubble and they don't want to participate. Many just want to get rich from Bitcoin easily and secretly multiply the number of bitcoins they own times the Winklevii level of $40K or higher and go to bed with a smile. Instead of creating real value, many rush to make money from the raise by not doing much, putting their last penny into bitcoins. As companies like BitPay and Coinbase eventually drag the price down, I read many Bitcoin diehards suggesting to immediately replenish your coins right after purchase, i.e. spend your bitcoins and then pay 1% + $0.15 at Coinbase. I won't mention that the rate will be different at that moment, too! :) Loyalism to the level of idiotism! If you believe Bitcoin price will keep going up, pay with your credit card, and then pay your credit card balance 30 days later when it will cost you less Bitcoins! Or don't pay it at all - the APR will be nothing compared to the logarithmic growth, right? :)
- VexXtreme 13y ago
  I believe it will keep going up but I am not 100% certain (anyone who says they are is an idiot or clueless) so I am invested only with an amount I am comfortable with. It's not an all or nothing kind of situation; you can be be exposed to an asset in proportion with the risk you associate with the said asset. It's called risk weighting and it's considered basic investing knowledge. At this point I am not comfortable investing more in BTC but I would also be very reluctant to bet against it. I currently believe that the chance that BTC will reach the levels the Winklevii are talking about is minuscule, otherwise I would've already dumped all my savings into it. I have a dislike for people who keep preaching either about BTC completely failing or overtaking the entire world economy. Both belong to the same camp of irrational thinking and simply hoping their preferred outcome happens. There is a certain probability distribution associated with the future price and the chance that the price will be at the either end of the curve (0 or max) is tiny. This is why I always tell people who make black and white "predictions" about price to simply invest according to their beliefs and certainty levels. It usually reveals real quick what they really believe (more often than not, they're full of shit).
  - kolev 13y ago
    I have to agree that both extremes don't do a favor to their side. The most important rule is not to invest money you can't afford to lose. I think 10-20% of your play capital can be invested in Bitcoin, but many put every single penny into it - maybe they don't have another chance to make money, who knows. Bitcoin sounds so simple as an investment! Unlike stocks, you don't need any special skills - you just hoard and cash out after a few years when you suddenly wake up a millionaire. By skills in stocks I mean that to match Bitcoin ROI you need to make a sequence of successful trades and stock picks.

kolev 13y ago

A lot of people mix profiting and preaching. If you believe in Bitcoin, you don't necessarily have to support its high price. In fact, the high price and the volatility limit mass adoption, the exponential growth makes many people recognize it as a bubble and they don't want to participate. Many just want to get rich from Bitcoin easily and secretly multiply the number of bitcoins they own times the Winklevii level of $40K or higher and go to bed with a smile. Instead of creating real value, many rush to make money from the raise by not doing much, putting their last penny into bitcoins. As companies like BitPay and Coinbase eventually drag the price down, I read many Bitcoin diehards suggesting to immediately replenish your coins right after purchase, i.e. spend your bitcoins and then pay 1% + $0.15 at Coinbase. I won't mention that the rate will be different at that moment, too! :) Loyalism to the level of idiotism! If you believe Bitcoin price will keep going up, pay with your credit card, and then pay your credit card balance 30 days later when it will cost you less Bitcoins! Or don't pay it at all - the APR will be nothing compared to the logarithmic growth, right? :)

VexXtreme 13y ago
I believe it will keep going up but I am not 100% certain (anyone who says they are is an idiot or clueless) so I am invested only with an amount I am comfortable with. It's not an all or nothing kind of situation; you can be be exposed to an asset in proportion with the risk you associate with the said asset. It's called risk weighting and it's considered basic investing knowledge. At this point I am not comfortable investing more in BTC but I would also be very reluctant to bet against it. I currently believe that the chance that BTC will reach the levels the Winklevii are talking about is minuscule, otherwise I would've already dumped all my savings into it. I have a dislike for people who keep preaching either about BTC completely failing or overtaking the entire world economy. Both belong to the same camp of irrational thinking and simply hoping their preferred outcome happens. There is a certain probability distribution associated with the future price and the chance that the price will be at the either end of the curve (0 or max) is tiny. This is why I always tell people who make black and white "predictions" about price to simply invest according to their beliefs and certainty levels. It usually reveals real quick what they really believe (more often than not, they're full of shit).
- kolev 13y ago
  I have to agree that both extremes don't do a favor to their side. The most important rule is not to invest money you can't afford to lose. I think 10-20% of your play capital can be invested in Bitcoin, but many put every single penny into it - maybe they don't have another chance to make money, who knows. Bitcoin sounds so simple as an investment! Unlike stocks, you don't need any special skills - you just hoard and cash out after a few years when you suddenly wake up a millionaire. By skills in stocks I mean that to match Bitcoin ROI you need to make a sequence of successful trades and stock picks.