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You wouldn't see these ratings on the Apple Store unless you are in Turkey (or changed your device's region) because Apple separates app store ratings. US devic

You wouldn't see these ratings on the Apple Store unless you are in Turkey (or changed your device's region) because Apple separates app store ratings. US devices only see US ratings. Turkey only sees Turkey ratings. EDIT: Also, Apple doesn't display ratings like Google does, so there is clearly no reason for them to leave reviews like that.

wyager 13y ago
That's clever. It accounts for cultural differences in rating systems. A 3/5 isn't a good rating in any country I've lived. A 5 is good. There isn't really a rating for "exceptionally amazing". But I'm sure somewhere, a 3/5 means "pretty good" and 5/5 is reserved for exceptionally positive reviews.
- zobzu 13y ago
  for the record in the us: 5* good 4* ok but has some issues 1* sux 2 and 3: irrelevant
- madeofpalk 13y ago
  Not just cultural differences. I've always hated Yelp and found it useless until I went on holiday to US. In Australia, there's just so few places on it its kinda boring.
  - wyager 13y ago
    I'm still not a big fan of Yelp (you can buy a good rating), but it's the only popular review app that I know of.
    - chmars 13y ago
      How can you buy a good Yelp rating?
      - michaelt 13y ago
        There are reports that Yelp ad sales people claim if you buy advertising with them they can make bad reviews go away [1]. Of course, it's possible the sales people are just claiming that to make the sale and don't actually deliver on it. There are also people on ebay [2] offering five star reviews for around $15. [1] http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/yelp-and-the-business-of-extortion-20/Content?oid=1176635 http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/yelp-and-the-business-... [2] http://www.ebay.com/sch/Web-Computer-Services-/47104/i.html?_nkw=yelp+review http://www.ebay.com/sch/Web-Computer-Services-/47104/i.html?...
- weinzierl 13y ago
  I ran into this cultural differences while hiring and they are significant. Did you live in France? 20 is for the pope, 19 for the president and 18 for the headmaster, they say.
  - seszett 13y ago
    I think you have to say that grading in France is usually over a 20-point scale. And indeed, the highest grades are rarely attributed even for near-perfect work.
    - rmc 13y ago
      Irish here. We mark things based on a percentages, and it would be rare to give someone very high marks (like 95%+). Then again our pass rate is 40%, and 85%+ is an A, so it could be scaled down. I think the USA uses different scales.
      - dpritchett 13y ago
        What happens to the 60% who fail? Do they retake the class or drop out and look for a job?
        Luc 13y ago
        The grandparent means 'passing grade', not 'pass rate'.
        dpritchett 13y ago
        Thanks! I couldn't quite wrap my mind around a school with 60% per-period attrition.
        rmc 13y ago
        Yes. Perhaps a dialect difference. We'd say "pass rate" to mean "get less than this and you fail, more and you pass". We don't tend to use the word "grade" here for results in tests, to my ears it sounds very Amercian. ☺ We'd say "mark".
- DigitalTurk 13y ago
  Actually, it's quite frustrating. It means that for many (geeky, 'international') apps that I'm interested in there's no rating available.
- tjoff 13y ago
  No it is not clever. Is is beyond idiotic since the system tries to determine the culture I'm interested in for me - without allowing me to easily change that.
  - Blahah 13y ago
    You can easily change it - you just click the flag at the bottom of the iTunes store and switch to the country of your choice.
- ishansharma 13y ago
  I don't think there's a country like that. Users are lazy and I think 5/5 is "it works well according to me" everywhere and next rating is 1/5 for "it doesn't work/it sucks" for most. Even I do this at times. Most of my ratings are 5 and 1.
- flurdy 13y ago
  May be my Norwegian upbringing or that I now live the UK, but when I like an app I often give it 3/5 stars, which to me is "not bad" (which means "good" in the UK). 5/5 would be amazing life changing rating and I don't get that excited by any app. I have give 4/5 to a few apps that is installed on all my devices. So the problem with world wide rating is that are so different depending on your location and culture (and age). Although I only install apps that have 4.5 star rating so I am being hypocritical... Anecdotal tangent: A long time ago when I was in school in Norway, grades was marked on sort of 1-5 rating. (LG=Not very Good, NG=Quite Good, G=Good, MG=Very Good, S=Exceptionally Good. http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaktersystemer_i_Norge#Grunnskolen http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaktersystemer_i_Norge#Grunns...) As I was usually among the best I mostly got a grade in the range of MG ie a 4. The top rating was practically impossible and I only got that on a few occasional tests but never on a full year's grade. MG+ was the more likely top grade to aim for. (They have since changed and expanded the grade system) When I then moved to the UK in my last years of schooling, grade A seemed to be handy out all over the place. I do remember having to have meetings with the head of the year to be put into the best Maths set even if my average from Norway was not of the top grade and trying to explain that top grade in the two countries was not equivalent.
  - Angostura 13y ago
    Similarly, as a Brit I'm not sure whether I've ever given an app, or film, or whatever a 'perfect' score. Really enjoyed it? A sold 4 from me.
  - aquadrop 13y ago
    Edit: Never mind, I made a mistake reading your comment.
  - tzakrajs 13y ago
    I don't believe you are a hypocrit for realizing the bulk of voters believe 5 is "good," and adjusting accordingly.
  - sentenza 13y ago
    I live in Germany, where the old people all like to critizise everything and the young people are as enthusiastic about apps as any American. Bimodal rating distributions everywhere. Help!
- raverbashing 13y ago
  In Germany it's the opposite A 1/5 would be the highest score, and 5/5 would be the worse score.
  - wolfgke 13y ago
    But only for school grades which go from 1 to 6 (with both 5 and 6 failed).
    - raverbashing 13y ago
      I've seen several customer satisfaction questionnaires like that
      - wolfgke 13y ago
        Living in Germany I'd rather say both systems are used. 1 best, 5 worst is supposed to reminiscent of school marks and 5 best, 1 worst is reminiscent of Amazon ratings. That's why normally in questionnaires you write next to it what is supposed to be best and what worst. Intuitively I'd indeed choose the 1 best, 5 worst system for surveys in Germany, but it's not consistently used.
Jun8 13y ago
You're right. Here's the link to the game on Turkish Store: https://itunes.apple.com/tr/app/wheres-my-water-2/id638853147?mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/tr/app/wheres-my-water-2/id63885314...

wyager 13y ago

That's clever. It accounts for cultural differences in rating systems. A 3/5 isn't a good rating in any country I've lived. A 5 is good. There isn't really a rating for "exceptionally amazing". But I'm sure somewhere, a 3/5 means "pretty good" and 5/5 is reserved for exceptionally positive reviews.

zobzu 13y ago
for the record in the us: 5* good 4* ok but has some issues 1* sux 2 and 3: irrelevant
madeofpalk 13y ago
Not just cultural differences. I've always hated Yelp and found it useless until I went on holiday to US. In Australia, there's just so few places on it its kinda boring.
- wyager 13y ago
  I'm still not a big fan of Yelp (you can buy a good rating), but it's the only popular review app that I know of.
  - chmars 13y ago
    How can you buy a good Yelp rating?
    - michaelt 13y ago
      There are reports that Yelp ad sales people claim if you buy advertising with them they can make bad reviews go away [1]. Of course, it's possible the sales people are just claiming that to make the sale and don't actually deliver on it. There are also people on ebay [2] offering five star reviews for around $15. [1] http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/yelp-and-the-business-of-extortion-20/Content?oid=1176635 http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/yelp-and-the-business-... [2] http://www.ebay.com/sch/Web-Computer-Services-/47104/i.html?_nkw=yelp+review http://www.ebay.com/sch/Web-Computer-Services-/47104/i.html?...
weinzierl 13y ago
I ran into this cultural differences while hiring and they are significant. Did you live in France? 20 is for the pope, 19 for the president and 18 for the headmaster, they say.
- seszett 13y ago
  I think you have to say that grading in France is usually over a 20-point scale. And indeed, the highest grades are rarely attributed even for near-perfect work.
  - rmc 13y ago
    Irish here. We mark things based on a percentages, and it would be rare to give someone very high marks (like 95%+). Then again our pass rate is 40%, and 85%+ is an A, so it could be scaled down. I think the USA uses different scales.
    - dpritchett 13y ago
      What happens to the 60% who fail? Do they retake the class or drop out and look for a job?
      - Luc 13y ago
        The grandparent means 'passing grade', not 'pass rate'.
        dpritchett 13y ago
        Thanks! I couldn't quite wrap my mind around a school with 60% per-period attrition.
        rmc 13y ago
        Yes. Perhaps a dialect difference. We'd say "pass rate" to mean "get less than this and you fail, more and you pass". We don't tend to use the word "grade" here for results in tests, to my ears it sounds very Amercian. ☺ We'd say "mark".
DigitalTurk 13y ago
Actually, it's quite frustrating. It means that for many (geeky, 'international') apps that I'm interested in there's no rating available.
tjoff 13y ago
No it is not clever. Is is beyond idiotic since the system tries to determine the culture I'm interested in for me - without allowing me to easily change that.
- Blahah 13y ago
  You can easily change it - you just click the flag at the bottom of the iTunes store and switch to the country of your choice.
ishansharma 13y ago
I don't think there's a country like that. Users are lazy and I think 5/5 is "it works well according to me" everywhere and next rating is 1/5 for "it doesn't work/it sucks" for most. Even I do this at times. Most of my ratings are 5 and 1.
flurdy 13y ago
May be my Norwegian upbringing or that I now live the UK, but when I like an app I often give it 3/5 stars, which to me is "not bad" (which means "good" in the UK). 5/5 would be amazing life changing rating and I don't get that excited by any app. I have give 4/5 to a few apps that is installed on all my devices. So the problem with world wide rating is that are so different depending on your location and culture (and age). Although I only install apps that have 4.5 star rating so I am being hypocritical... Anecdotal tangent: A long time ago when I was in school in Norway, grades was marked on sort of 1-5 rating. (LG=Not very Good, NG=Quite Good, G=Good, MG=Very Good, S=Exceptionally Good. http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaktersystemer_i_Norge#Grunnskolen http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaktersystemer_i_Norge#Grunns...) As I was usually among the best I mostly got a grade in the range of MG ie a 4. The top rating was practically impossible and I only got that on a few occasional tests but never on a full year's grade. MG+ was the more likely top grade to aim for. (They have since changed and expanded the grade system) When I then moved to the UK in my last years of schooling, grade A seemed to be handy out all over the place. I do remember having to have meetings with the head of the year to be put into the best Maths set even if my average from Norway was not of the top grade and trying to explain that top grade in the two countries was not equivalent.
- Angostura 13y ago
  Similarly, as a Brit I'm not sure whether I've ever given an app, or film, or whatever a 'perfect' score. Really enjoyed it? A sold 4 from me.
- aquadrop 13y ago
  Edit: Never mind, I made a mistake reading your comment.
- tzakrajs 13y ago
  I don't believe you are a hypocrit for realizing the bulk of voters believe 5 is "good," and adjusting accordingly.
- sentenza 13y ago
  I live in Germany, where the old people all like to critizise everything and the young people are as enthusiastic about apps as any American. Bimodal rating distributions everywhere. Help!
raverbashing 13y ago
In Germany it's the opposite A 1/5 would be the highest score, and 5/5 would be the worse score.
- wolfgke 13y ago
  But only for school grades which go from 1 to 6 (with both 5 and 6 failed).
  - raverbashing 13y ago
    I've seen several customer satisfaction questionnaires like that
    - wolfgke 13y ago
      Living in Germany I'd rather say both systems are used. 1 best, 5 worst is supposed to reminiscent of school marks and 5 best, 1 worst is reminiscent of Amazon ratings. That's why normally in questionnaires you write next to it what is supposed to be best and what worst. Intuitively I'd indeed choose the 1 best, 5 worst system for surveys in Germany, but it's not consistently used.

Jun8 13y ago

You're right. Here's the link to the game on Turkish Store: https://itunes.apple.com/tr/app/wheres-my-water-2/id638853147?mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/tr/app/wheres-my-water-2/id63885314...