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This article is an excellent start :-) It is particularly relevant in relation to that article that surfaced here, about mapping out emotions arising from a la

by hosh 13y ago

This article is an excellent start :-) It is particularly relevant in relation to that article that surfaced here, about mapping out emotions arising from a large sampling of people. I will say though, that thoughts do not simply arise from emotions in introverted people -- it arises like that in pretty much everyone. Some extraverts are just that in tuned with their bodies, emotions, and intuitions; others use talking as a way to avoid getting in touch with feelings, much that same many thinkers use thoughts to avoid getting in touch with feelings. Lastly, loneliness tends to be a particular feeling lodged in the chest (for a lot of people). Regardless of whether you label that sensation as loneliness or not, there are physical exercises that can work with it directly. The main thing is to relax the muscles and tissues surrounding the chest cavity and give those sensations an opportunity to move and flow. It is best done when your arms are (physically) wide open. Loneliness comes from a feeling of not getting sufficient emotional connection from others. There are lots of configurations that can lead to that. One of the main ones is that, the very act of connecting to someone else requires opening up, and opening up usually leads people to feeling the vulnerability that they don't want. Physically opening up the arms and the body helps you get used to feeling open, and being so, it becomes easier to connect with others. Hope this help some of you folks -- good times :-)

loupeabody 13y ago
You seem to be knowledgeable about this topic. Have you ever heard about bioenergetics? If not, the general premise is that neurosis is expressed physically in the musculature. Specific kinds of movements can target and eliminate neurosis, which emerges as tension in chronically contracted muscles. Any exercise is bound to help somewhat, probably for more reasons than something like bioenergetics can claim, but still there are specific approaches for eliminating neurotic behavior in different character types. These specific exercises are accompanied by psychoanalysis in order to cultivate a conscious relationship between the mental and physical constructs of the patient's neurosis. It seems like a pretty obvious insight to me now, having read a little bit about the subject. For example, flinching is a very pronounced, instinctual movement, and occurs in response to danger, right? So, if our environment can impel us to move, then certainly there are other movements, like flinches, that are more subtle in their expression, but reflect some internal, psychological mechanism, like a response to fear. Perception of body language, such as bad posture, supports this. I have yet to read a satisfactory amount of info about the subject, but I can recommend what little I've read if anyone's interested.
- blendergasket 13y ago
  I'd be really interested in scientific information about this. I have been practicing Qigong for a little more than a year and a half and I can absolutely say that it is the best thing that has ever happened to me. It feels like it's tapping right into what it seems you're talking about. It's amazing, the power of the body (which, in a dualistic culture like I've grown up in may be an overly reductive word).
  - lawnchair_larry 13y ago
    You won't find scientific information about it, because like Qigong, it's pseudoscience.
    - h1karu 13y ago
      For approximately 500 years [science's] argument for its pre-eminence was that it could create beautiful toys: aircraft, railroads, global economies, television, spacecraft. But that is a fool’s argument for truth! I mean, that’s after all how a medicine show operates, you know: the juggler is so good, the medicine must be even better! This is not an entirely rational way to proceed. -Terrence Mckenna
      - nmeofthestate 13y ago
        "Chi" "flowing through the body"? And, from another comment "quasi-quantum biological enzymes"? (NB: quantum theory pseudo-scientific-bollocks klaxon) Qigong may get results, but it's certainly pseudoscience. And I bet science will be what eventually explains why it gets results.
        jvagner 13y ago
        what's the name for things in science that will be proven in 20 years, but can't be proven today? what are the limits of science? i'd also recommend the book "the divided mind" by john sarno to readers of this thread.
wpietri 13y ago
Do you happen to have a link to that mapping article? It sounds interesting.
- hosh 13y ago
  This was the article I read: http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/12/30/258313116/mapping-emotions-on-the-body-love-makes-us-warm-all-over http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/12/30/258313116/mapping... However, I lost track of the arxiv URL. The Y(HN) links directly to the paper.
thupten 13y ago
You reminded me of a ted talk. Lifting your arms up for two minutes boosts ones confidence. The speaker recommends that before interview if one can find a place to lift their arms for 2 minutes (like in a restroom), the interview goes much better.
- hosh 13y ago
  Sure. Even better if you are raising it up like you are pumping your arms for victory. I once did a qigong practice in front of the kid. The kid copied me, stretched his arms all the way up, on tiptoes, with a big grin on his face. Obviously, I learned more from the kid than the kid learned from me.
- agumonkey 13y ago
  here's said talk http://www.ted.com/talks/amy_cuddy_your_body_language_shapes_who_you_are.html http://www.ted.com/talks/amy_cuddy_your_body_language_shapes... ps: I'll add that doing physical activity gives good posture for "free". I'll suggest anybody to gradually go up to sets of 10 {pushups, crunches, squat} and a bit of stretching hip and back, and shoulder. It won't take long, 10 crunches ~= 30 seconds, will make you warm, relaxed and stand straight.

by hosh 13y ago

loupeabody 13y ago

You seem to be knowledgeable about this topic. Have you ever heard about bioenergetics? If not, the general premise is that neurosis is expressed physically in the musculature. Specific kinds of movements can target and eliminate neurosis, which emerges as tension in chronically contracted muscles. Any exercise is bound to help somewhat, probably for more reasons than something like bioenergetics can claim, but still there are specific approaches for eliminating neurotic behavior in different character types. These specific exercises are accompanied by psychoanalysis in order to cultivate a conscious relationship between the mental and physical constructs of the patient's neurosis. It seems like a pretty obvious insight to me now, having read a little bit about the subject. For example, flinching is a very pronounced, instinctual movement, and occurs in response to danger, right? So, if our environment can impel us to move, then certainly there are other movements, like flinches, that are more subtle in their expression, but reflect some internal, psychological mechanism, like a response to fear. Perception of body language, such as bad posture, supports this. I have yet to read a satisfactory amount of info about the subject, but I can recommend what little I've read if anyone's interested.

blendergasket 13y ago
I'd be really interested in scientific information about this. I have been practicing Qigong for a little more than a year and a half and I can absolutely say that it is the best thing that has ever happened to me. It feels like it's tapping right into what it seems you're talking about. It's amazing, the power of the body (which, in a dualistic culture like I've grown up in may be an overly reductive word).
- lawnchair_larry 13y ago
  You won't find scientific information about it, because like Qigong, it's pseudoscience.
  - h1karu 13y ago
    For approximately 500 years [science's] argument for its pre-eminence was that it could create beautiful toys: aircraft, railroads, global economies, television, spacecraft. But that is a fool’s argument for truth! I mean, that’s after all how a medicine show operates, you know: the juggler is so good, the medicine must be even better! This is not an entirely rational way to proceed. -Terrence Mckenna
    - nmeofthestate 13y ago
      "Chi" "flowing through the body"? And, from another comment "quasi-quantum biological enzymes"? (NB: quantum theory pseudo-scientific-bollocks klaxon) Qigong may get results, but it's certainly pseudoscience. And I bet science will be what eventually explains why it gets results.
      - jvagner 13y ago
        what's the name for things in science that will be proven in 20 years, but can't be proven today? what are the limits of science? i'd also recommend the book "the divided mind" by john sarno to readers of this thread.

wpietri 13y ago

Do you happen to have a link to that mapping article? It sounds interesting.

hosh 13y ago
This was the article I read: http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/12/30/258313116/mapping-emotions-on-the-body-love-makes-us-warm-all-over http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/12/30/258313116/mapping... However, I lost track of the arxiv URL. The Y(HN) links directly to the paper.

thupten 13y ago

You reminded me of a ted talk. Lifting your arms up for two minutes boosts ones confidence. The speaker recommends that before interview if one can find a place to lift their arms for 2 minutes (like in a restroom), the interview goes much better.

hosh 13y ago
Sure. Even better if you are raising it up like you are pumping your arms for victory. I once did a qigong practice in front of the kid. The kid copied me, stretched his arms all the way up, on tiptoes, with a big grin on his face. Obviously, I learned more from the kid than the kid learned from me.
agumonkey 13y ago
here's said talk http://www.ted.com/talks/amy_cuddy_your_body_language_shapes_who_you_are.html http://www.ted.com/talks/amy_cuddy_your_body_language_shapes... ps: I'll add that doing physical activity gives good posture for "free". I'll suggest anybody to gradually go up to sets of 10 {pushups, crunches, squat} and a bit of stretching hip and back, and shoulder. It won't take long, 10 crunches ~= 30 seconds, will make you warm, relaxed and stand straight.