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Depending on your service provider (hosting, msp, mttos, whatever), the up-front msa can be truly painful if you want "real" service. I.e., redundant power and
by reeses 13y ago
Depending on your service provider (hosting, msp, mttos, whatever), the up-front msa can be truly painful if you want "real" service. I.e., redundant power and multi-provider network connectivity with multiple connectivity points that have a massive capital cost but will be as reliable as your commercial or home utilities.
Couple the cost of establishing the relationship (especially with startup credit) with the NRC and MRC of hosting services, smart hands rates, reserved cabinet or cage space for those surprise boxes on the dock, and incremental pricing models, and it's very difficult to build out and manage poorly predicted growth in a financially constrained environment.
Saving money on this means you're allocating additional engineer hours to dealing with this yourself.
The 'middle road' is probably an operator in a decent NAP or superNAP that manages the big lease and then carves out a margin by offering smaller space, possibly even colocating your hardware in the same rack as someone else's (and maybe not in the same rack with your other gear), and charging more than a macminicolo but offering significantly improved and variable services.
There are a number of walls you can hit that will present themselves as an almost insurmountable obstacle when you own your own gear. There are mandatory professional services when setting up some gear (SAN vendors have been notorious for this) and it's just a bunch of attention you have to devote to something for which there is generally a good enough solution for a company that may not exist long enough to depreciate the servers that ate a huge amount of their startup capital.
It's not that we're 'afraid' of computers. It's like saying we were afraid of electricity or telephone lines 40 years ago. We can manage it, but it's almost irresponsible and risky to do so.
- Sssnake 13y agoYou are inventing a problem that doesn't exist. I can literally have a cabinet in a first class data center in 2 days and it takes 15 minutes of my time. You save assloads of money this way vs AWS which is incredibly expensive. You can buy an equally performing server for the cost of a month of renting the VM from amazon (for the big ones obviously, you can't buy servers as slow as a ec2 large instance.)
- tinco 13y agoAlright, who in your company knows what hardware to buy at which datacenter for how much? What software is going to run on it? who picks that software? How do you get data onto it? How do you get data off of it? What happens when it goes down? How do you monitor it? How do you scale it to two servers? Or more? Who is going to do that? Who is going to know all that? Who else is going to know that so your company doesn't fail when the first person isn't around?
- andyjpb 13y agoExactly the same way as you do in the cloud: read the docs, write the script.
- Sssnake 13y ago>Alright, who in your company knows what hardware to buy at which datacenter for how much? Everyone? I don't understand how you can imagine a problem like this. "Who in your company knows how to tie their shoes?" >What software is going to run on it? who picks that software? How do you get data onto it? How do you get data off of it? What happens when it goes down? How do you monitor it? How do you scale it to two servers? Or more? Who is going to do that? Who is going to know all that? Who else is going to know that so your company doesn't fail when the first person isn't around? AWS solves precisely zero of those problems. It isn't magic pixie dust, it is renting Xen VMs.