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I'm reminded of Ted Kaczynski's take on P.C. activism: "Leftists may claim that their activism is motivated by compassion or by moral principle, and moral prin
by mcantelon 13y ago
I'm reminded of Ted Kaczynski's take on P.C. activism:
"Leftists may claim that their activism is motivated by compassion or by moral principle, and moral principle does play a role for the leftist of the oversocialized type. But compassion and moral principle cannot be the main motives for leftist activism. Hostility is too prominent a component of leftist behavior; so is the drive for power. Moreover, much leftist behavior is not rationally calculated to be of benefit to the people whom the leftists claim to be trying to help. For example, if one believes that affirmative action is good for black people, does it make sense to demand affirmative action in hostile or dogmatic terms? Obviously it would be more productive to take a diplomatic and conciliatory approach that would make at least verbal and symbolic concessions to white people who think that affirmative action discriminates against them. But leftist activists do not take such an approach because it would not satisfy their emotional needs. Helping black people is not their real goal. Instead, race problems serve as an excuse for them to express their own hostility and frustrated need for power. In doing so they actually harm black people, because the activists' hostile attitude toward the white majority tends to intensify race hatred."
http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/resources/fc/unabe2.html#c2 http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/resources/fc/unabe2.html#c...
I think the aim of making the tech industry friendlier to women is better served by continued outreach efforts, rather than making an example out of individuals arbitrarily.
- cynicalkane 13y agoI was referring to a specific subset of leftist behavior which I called "P.C. bullying." But good job applying it to all leftist activism. By quoting the Unibomber. Because the Unibomber has done so much more for the cause of women and blacks than have left-wing activists. That is to say, I'm not interested in going all anti-leftist and turning things into politics. You have me mistaken.
- mcantelon 13y agoI'm not saying you're anti-leftist, simply quoting someone's take on the psychology behind P.C. bullying. Not everything has to involve left/right-wing tribalism.
- Karunamon 13y agoYou say as you post a paragraph from a (whoops: not dead) terrorist's tirade against liberals. I don't think you could have possibly picked a worse example to hold up as not involving tribalism...
- mcantelon 13y agoI don't see how the example is tribalist. Ted Kaczynski, in my understanding, was a loner that was neither left or right wing. And I'm not sure why the fact he's a terrorist is relevant to his analysis.
- Karunamon 13y agoYou don't have to be in the opposite of a group to spew hate against that group. And I see very little "reasoning" in that quote, just lots of eloquently-worded polemic which weakly attempts to cast negative aspersions on an entire political view. Some of it is outright false. In other words, it's content that wouldn't look at all out of place on a right-leaning website's "This is why liberals are bad" section.
- mcantelon 13y agoCriticism and hate seem to be increasingly conflated these days. I don't see anything in that quote that would quality as hateful.
- Karunamon 13y agoWell, the difference is that the first one is usually fact based and best delivered neutrally. The second one is usually emotion based and delivered with harsh invective, and additionally usually doesn't concern itself with facts.
- mcantelon 13y agoWhere's the "harsh invective" in the quote?
- notdrunkatall 13y agoYour 'potential threat' level with the NSA has risen from 10 to 9.
- Crito 13y agoHe overflowed the int? Well shit...
- eruditely 13y agoTitle of the link I am providing "Psychological assessment of the unabomber" Here are the first few parts of the text >"Dr. Sally C. Johnson's psychological report describes Theodore Kaczynski, the confessed Unabomber, as a man whose early brilliance was ruined by paranoid schizophrenia. >"Johnson made her evaluation after interviewing Kaczynski, his family and people who knew him, analyzing psychological tests, and studing of the Unabomber's journals which document over 40 years of his life." >"She cites "an almost total absence of interpersonal relationships," and "delusional thinking involving being controlled by modern technology" as examples of his illness." http://www.paulcooijmans.com/psychology/unabombreport.html http://www.paulcooijmans.com/psychology/unabombreport.html below is a commentary by Paul Cooijmans on the report itself you might as well read that if you are lazy http://www.paulcooijmans.com/psychology/unabomber.html http://www.paulcooijmans.com/psychology/unabomber.html
- mcantelon 13y agoEvidence suggests Kaczynski participated in MKULTRA: http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/2000/06/chase.htm http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/2000/06/chase.ht... If so, this would have been a likely explanation for his chosen direction.