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Hmmm this is all well and good, but what do we expect NSA and GCHQ to do instead? I don't especially like them or what they do, but we need them... I'm also su
by jheriko 13y ago
Hmmm this is all well and good, but what do we expect NSA and GCHQ to do instead?
I don't especially like them or what they do, but we need them... I'm also surprised at the massive backlash and the revelatory nature of the Snowden leaks... I was expecting that NSA and GCHQ would engage in precisely these kinds of activities - its exactly what they are there for - I am surprised that anyone ever had any different expectations, but clearly a large majority did.
Are we suggesting that society has come far enough that we can do without espionage altogether?
- Nursie 13y agoWe don't expect, need or want them to go anywhere near as far as they do. This was not done with our mandate and in a democratic society it damn well needs it. They are there to keep an eye on suspected bad guys, not to watch us all constantly. What they can do is fire 75% of their staff and stick to the rules.
- sp332 13y agoMore-specific investigations to uncover actual threats, real court oversight, and making sure that protections written into law are enforced during data collection.
- gaius 13y agoIf GCHQ and the NSA were actually dedicated to securing our networks that would be a start, e.g. helping businesses and individuals migrate to SELinux or something.
- gaius 13y agoIt's a valid question: DO we still need things left over from the Cold War? BAOR no longer exists for example. Pretty soon we'll have no tank regiments. And in the US, as posted on here the other day, the FBI is responsible for national security now.