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That statement should've read "web security professional"; just fixed and pushed. You're right, there are courses out there to teach you a broad spectrum of se

by daeken 13y ago

That statement should've read "web security professional"; just fixed and pushed. You're right, there are courses out there to teach you a broad spectrum of security topics, including some web content. That said, Breaker 101 covers a pretty crazy breadth and depth. The web topics covered in OffSec's course are covered in the first few weeks of Breaker 101, with significantly deeper excursions and more advanced topics after that. OffSec's course is good for a very broad-strokes overview of security, but it doesn't dive deep, which is -- I believe -- Breaker 101's strength. The goal is that you come out of the course fully able to perform well in a web security environment, and I believe it does that.

runjake 13y ago
> That statement should've read "web security professional" Right, so I can buy the PWK course and their Advanced Web Exploitation course and still come out paying less. > OffSec's course is good for a very broad-strokes overview of security, but it doesn't dive deep, Are you kidding? It dives pretty deep. Your website says "Each week will require between 2-3 hours of work by the students". That's how many hours are required per day in the PWK course if you want to complete the materials within 90 days. Your course claims to require a time commitment of 2-3 hours a week, but let's up it to 5 hours required. That's still only 60 hours of (expected) course time. Contrast that with the OSCP course (35 days 12) of 180 hours. 60 hours to cover and do hands-on for a broad range of web attacks and also deal with "in-depth" crypto breaking? And this course is targeted at a beginner? You make a lot of claims and charge a lot of money but they don't seem to stand up and that's going to arouse a lot of perceptions like mine from the security world. Everyone is very suspicious of snake oil claims. Sorry, I don't mean to rain on your parade. I hope you are successful and push the security industry forward. It's just rather annoying to see you show up to the party and make rather bold claims that don't seem to hold up to scrutiny.

by daeken 13y ago

runjake 13y ago

> That statement should've read "web security professional" Right, so I can buy the PWK course and their Advanced Web Exploitation course and still come out paying less. > OffSec's course is good for a very broad-strokes overview of security, but it doesn't dive deep, Are you kidding? It dives pretty deep. Your website says "Each week will require between 2-3 hours of work by the students". That's how many hours are required per day in the PWK course if you want to complete the materials within 90 days. Your course claims to require a time commitment of 2-3 hours a week, but let's up it to 5 hours required. That's still only 60 hours of (expected) course time. Contrast that with the OSCP course (35 days 12) of 180 hours. 60 hours to cover and do hands-on for a broad range of web attacks and also deal with "in-depth" crypto breaking? And this course is targeted at a beginner? You make a lot of claims and charge a lot of money but they don't seem to stand up and that's going to arouse a lot of perceptions like mine from the security world. Everyone is very suspicious of snake oil claims. Sorry, I don't mean to rain on your parade. I hope you are successful and push the security industry forward. It's just rather annoying to see you show up to the party and make rather bold claims that don't seem to hold up to scrutiny.