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First of all, you can get the U3014 for around $1100, less on sale. http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00C2RPW8O/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new http

First of all, you can get the U3014 for around $1100, less on sale. http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00C2RPW8O/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00C2RPW8O/ref=dp_olp... ... additionally, it is a "professional" monitor (X-Rite tie in, factory calibrated, etc) and will likely maintain a premium price as corporations are the target customers. Secondly, the Seiki is not a "good" monitor. It isn't even a "good" TV. The only thing Seiki has is pixel density and cheapness, it is awful in every other measurable way, without a doubt one of the worst panels I have ever purchased. I can't fathom how you can justify calling it "good". Excluding resolution -- can you even name a single thing you like about it, that you think is a cut above? You can get a number of wonderful 27" inch (2560x1440+) in that same price point. With good inputs, colors, refresh rates, adjustability, brightness, yada, yada. They go as cheap as $350 now, but you can get GREAT ones (really great, not just pixel density) for around $500. Questions: (1) How many hours do you spend really working on the Seiki... not your wife, not on the phone, not at home on your wonderful Dell monitors, not walking around, not just in the office, how many legitimate hours to you spend USING the Seiki? (2) Why do choose for your developers, why not given them a budget of X to buy whatever they want?

bhauer 13y ago
Good to hear that the Dell prices have not actually increased to $1,600. I was a bit shocked by that when I searched at Newegg. Still, it's exceedingly frustrating that the price of a 30" professional monitor has been locked at $1,100 since they were introduced in 2005 (or was it even earlier?). I suppose you and I just disagree on what is good and what is not. I've personally used the Seiki for the past few days. We just got them this week. I value the quantity of pixels and price a little more than color accuracy, balance, and uniformity. I want even better specs. I want 60Hz most of all. But given the balance of priorities, I personally think the scale tips toward size and resolution to maximize my own productivity. 60 Hz though, I'll take it in a heartbeat. The blog entry is just my opinion and I understand your opinion is strongly opposed. That's fine. Answers: (1) A total of about 6 hours a day for the past few days. They just arrived. Key quality of life improvements have been using the firmware patch to allow the backlight to be dimmed and using dark color schemes. Most of us were using dark color schemes already since we prefer those at any resolution. (2) I'm not going to bother answering this in detail. From the reactions I've seen, we're very happy with the upgrade. Seiki has a lot of room for improvement. I take it your opinion is that they have a huge amount of improving to do. I really want the whole desktop display market to improve dramatically. It has been stagnant for so long that I really treasure these recent developments. As much as I acknowledge this display's weaknesses, I see it as a harbinger of some long overdue innovation. For that alone I am very happy.
- erikig 13y ago
  I'd like to chime in as another Seiki user. I've been working on projects for 3-4 month with the Seiki and I end up using it 12-14 hrs on many days. I run it at full 2160p but have increased my Win8 res to 120%.
  - easy_rider 13y ago
    This is my problem. Pixel density is great if you have 20/20 vision. I'm really happy with 1080p on 27" IPS (LG). People would probably think I'm mad. Just as I would consider myself mad looking at a blueish display all day long.
- easy_rider 13y ago
  > I'm not going to bother answering this in detail. From the reactions I've seen, we're very happy with the upgrade. Detail? This answer has cost you more words than the obvious two picks: "We made a vote","I made a gamble" ?
chrisrhoden 13y ago
> You can get a number of wonderful 27" inch (2560x1440+) in that same price point. With good inputs, colors, refresh rates, adjustability, brightness, yada, yada. They go as cheap as $350 now, but you can get GREAT ones (really great, not just pixel density) for around $500. Where can I find these?
- MetaCosm 13y ago
  ... Everywhere? There are literally 41 under $500 at 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 on Newegg right now. The QNIX was already linked in this thread by someone else (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2RY0X59885&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2RY0X598...)
  - chrisrhoden 13y ago
    I was looking for your opinions on some great options, not trying to pick a fight.
    - vinceguidry 13y ago
      Then why didn't you say that?
    - fredsted 13y ago
      How is that "trying to pick a fight"?
kudu 13y ago
> They go as cheap as $350 now, but you can get GREAT ones (really great, not just pixel density) for around $500. Are there any for $500 that are better than the $300 ones?
d23 13y ago
> Secondly, the Seiki is not a "good" monitor. It isn't even a "good" TV. The only thing Seiki has is pixel density and cheapness, it is awful in every other measurable way, without a doubt one of the worst panels I have ever purchased. I can't fathom how you can justify calling it "good". Excluding resolution -- can you even name a single thing you like about it, that you think is a cut above? Do you have an ax to grind, or is this just typical HN pedantry? The reviews on Amazon for this display is a solid 4.0 from 200+ reviews -- hardly the shite quality you seem to be suggesting. Given that the thesis of the article is that this would be great for programmers (i.e. not designers or the color obsessed), the fervor to which you're arguing the point seems misplaced.
- barrkel 13y ago
  The man used two physical calibration devices on the monitor. I think that means he values color reproduction much higher than the average buyer.
- chris11 13y ago
  CNet compared the 50inch model to a 50 inch 720p plasma, and came to the conclusion that the plasma was a better tv. The review was more focused on using it as a television, but it appears that product is low quality. http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57599449-221/budget-tv-resolution-rumble-720p-plasma-vs-4k-led-lcd/ http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57599449-221/budget-tv-...

bhauer 13y ago

Good to hear that the Dell prices have not actually increased to $1,600. I was a bit shocked by that when I searched at Newegg. Still, it's exceedingly frustrating that the price of a 30" professional monitor has been locked at $1,100 since they were introduced in 2005 (or was it even earlier?). I suppose you and I just disagree on what is good and what is not. I've personally used the Seiki for the past few days. We just got them this week. I value the quantity of pixels and price a little more than color accuracy, balance, and uniformity. I want even better specs. I want 60Hz most of all. But given the balance of priorities, I personally think the scale tips toward size and resolution to maximize my own productivity. 60 Hz though, I'll take it in a heartbeat. The blog entry is just my opinion and I understand your opinion is strongly opposed. That's fine. Answers: (1) A total of about 6 hours a day for the past few days. They just arrived. Key quality of life improvements have been using the firmware patch to allow the backlight to be dimmed and using dark color schemes. Most of us were using dark color schemes already since we prefer those at any resolution. (2) I'm not going to bother answering this in detail. From the reactions I've seen, we're very happy with the upgrade. Seiki has a lot of room for improvement. I take it your opinion is that they have a huge amount of improving to do. I really want the whole desktop display market to improve dramatically. It has been stagnant for so long that I really treasure these recent developments. As much as I acknowledge this display's weaknesses, I see it as a harbinger of some long overdue innovation. For that alone I am very happy.

erikig 13y ago
I'd like to chime in as another Seiki user. I've been working on projects for 3-4 month with the Seiki and I end up using it 12-14 hrs on many days. I run it at full 2160p but have increased my Win8 res to 120%.
- easy_rider 13y ago
  This is my problem. Pixel density is great if you have 20/20 vision. I'm really happy with 1080p on 27" IPS (LG). People would probably think I'm mad. Just as I would consider myself mad looking at a blueish display all day long.
easy_rider 13y ago
> I'm not going to bother answering this in detail. From the reactions I've seen, we're very happy with the upgrade. Detail? This answer has cost you more words than the obvious two picks: "We made a vote","I made a gamble" ?

chrisrhoden 13y ago

> You can get a number of wonderful 27" inch (2560x1440+) in that same price point. With good inputs, colors, refresh rates, adjustability, brightness, yada, yada. They go as cheap as $350 now, but you can get GREAT ones (really great, not just pixel density) for around $500. Where can I find these?

MetaCosm 13y ago
... Everywhere? There are literally 41 under $500 at 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 on Newegg right now. The QNIX was already linked in this thread by someone else (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2RY0X59885&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2RY0X598...)
- chrisrhoden 13y ago
  I was looking for your opinions on some great options, not trying to pick a fight.
  - vinceguidry 13y ago
    Then why didn't you say that?
  - fredsted 13y ago
    How is that "trying to pick a fight"?

kudu 13y ago

> They go as cheap as $350 now, but you can get GREAT ones (really great, not just pixel density) for around $500. Are there any for $500 that are better than the $300 ones?

d23 13y ago

> Secondly, the Seiki is not a "good" monitor. It isn't even a "good" TV. The only thing Seiki has is pixel density and cheapness, it is awful in every other measurable way, without a doubt one of the worst panels I have ever purchased. I can't fathom how you can justify calling it "good". Excluding resolution -- can you even name a single thing you like about it, that you think is a cut above? Do you have an ax to grind, or is this just typical HN pedantry? The reviews on Amazon for this display is a solid 4.0 from 200+ reviews -- hardly the shite quality you seem to be suggesting. Given that the thesis of the article is that this would be great for programmers (i.e. not designers or the color obsessed), the fervor to which you're arguing the point seems misplaced.

barrkel 13y ago
The man used two physical calibration devices on the monitor. I think that means he values color reproduction much higher than the average buyer.
chris11 13y ago
CNet compared the 50inch model to a 50 inch 720p plasma, and came to the conclusion that the plasma was a better tv. The review was more focused on using it as a television, but it appears that product is low quality. http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57599449-221/budget-tv-resolution-rumble-720p-plasma-vs-4k-led-lcd/ http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57599449-221/budget-tv-...