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Customers would get more of the benefits of cloud computing if they didn't have to set up their own servers though. It'd be cool if a customer could, say, host

Customers would get more of the benefits of cloud computing if they didn't have to set up their own servers though. It'd be cool if a customer could, say, host the app within the customer's own AWS account.

iron_ball 17y ago
Yeah, but it's well established that big companies will pay ten, a hundred, a thousand times more if it means they have 100% control over the software and data. There are hundreds of thousands of programmers who wouldn't have jobs if not for that fact.
- edw519 17y ago
  "There are hundreds of thousands of programmers who wouldn't have jobs if not for that fact." Not my experience. There would still be plenty of work for those hundreds of thousands of programmers. The reason that most companies have programmers is not because the want 100% control over the software and data. It's because they have no choice. They can't find pre-packaged software that perfectly supports their business rules. Moving their apps to the cloud does nothing to change the way they run their business. They'll still need the same programmers to support that.
ErrantX 17y ago
the trouble is in large (very large) companies anything not directly inside the control of the company inspires cold sweat and shakes from management types :)
- edw519 17y ago
  "...anything not directly inside the control of the company inspires cold sweat and shakes from management types..." Along with shareholders, creditors, vendors, customers, auditors, employees, directors, SOX compliance, SEC compliance, hell anyone with a vested interest or fiduciary responsibility.
- sreitshamer 17y ago
  Don't very large companies use services from providers like SunGard (hosting) and IronMountain (records management for compliance)?
  - ErrantX 17y ago
    yeh your right. My fault i should have highlighted the idea of intellectual property. Company payrolls are not as critical (in this respect) as the latest word document detailing the spec for the next greatest consumer product. Companies will use outside tech when and if they are forced too. If it can come in house or they have a choice then voila :) If offered the choice between standard Office and Google docs the choice is clear for them - keep it on the premesis. However a self hosted version of Office-"Cloud" will appeal to those who see the value in cloud hosted apps (even if the whole point - reliability - is somewhat lost).

iron_ball 17y ago

Yeah, but it's well established that big companies will pay ten, a hundred, a thousand times more if it means they have 100% control over the software and data. There are hundreds of thousands of programmers who wouldn't have jobs if not for that fact.

edw519 17y ago
"There are hundreds of thousands of programmers who wouldn't have jobs if not for that fact." Not my experience. There would still be plenty of work for those hundreds of thousands of programmers. The reason that most companies have programmers is not because the want 100% control over the software and data. It's because they have no choice. They can't find pre-packaged software that perfectly supports their business rules. Moving their apps to the cloud does nothing to change the way they run their business. They'll still need the same programmers to support that.

ErrantX 17y ago

the trouble is in large (very large) companies anything not directly inside the control of the company inspires cold sweat and shakes from management types :)

edw519 17y ago
"...anything not directly inside the control of the company inspires cold sweat and shakes from management types..." Along with shareholders, creditors, vendors, customers, auditors, employees, directors, SOX compliance, SEC compliance, hell anyone with a vested interest or fiduciary responsibility.
sreitshamer 17y ago
Don't very large companies use services from providers like SunGard (hosting) and IronMountain (records management for compliance)?
- ErrantX 17y ago
  yeh your right. My fault i should have highlighted the idea of intellectual property. Company payrolls are not as critical (in this respect) as the latest word document detailing the spec for the next greatest consumer product. Companies will use outside tech when and if they are forced too. If it can come in house or they have a choice then voila :) If offered the choice between standard Office and Google docs the choice is clear for them - keep it on the premesis. However a self hosted version of Office-"Cloud" will appeal to those who see the value in cloud hosted apps (even if the whole point - reliability - is somewhat lost).