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I don't really understand how a TV can be needlessly large. Also, I don't understand why people still buy TVs in 2014. When I replaced my TV about 4-5 years ag

I don't really understand how a TV can be needlessly large. Also, I don't understand why people still buy TVs in 2014. When I replaced my TV about 4-5 years ago, I bought a 500€ beamer and a 100€ retractable canvas. Sure, that beamer only has 1024x768, but today you'll certainly be able to buy something significantly better in a similar price range. With my living room PC connected to the beamer, my "screen" is 1.7 meters wide, I can watch movies, television, play games, have internet, linux (rsync!, ssh!) and all of that significantly cheaper than any "decent" television set. Why do people (given they have the space) still buy televisions?

dagw 13y ago
A couple of friend of mine have have gone with that solution and to be perfectly honest the bad image quality really annoys me on the cheap setups. The one setup that I've seen and liked cost in excesses of 2500€. I'd much rather have a 40" TV with the best image quality possible than a crappy 80" image from a cheap projector.
- Joeri 13y ago
  At my office they replaced the beamers with big ctouch touchscreens. It's a huge improvement even at the smaller diagonal because of the clear and sharp image. Plus, it's cool to stand there pulling stuff across the screen minority report style.
gnur 13y ago
Because contrast and brightness are much higher on televisons. Also, televisons often offer more features like usb, networking, sound and cec. I'm not entirely sure about most beamers, but I don't believe they offer the same integration with a chromecast or raspbmc that my current 500 euro sharp aquos does.
- matthewrudy 13y ago
  my setup is a Samsung 42" TV + AppleTV + a PS4. The colours and clarify are amazing (the sound isn't) I use the TV for BBC iPlayer, Netflix, and Viki (I'm into asian soap operas) I use the Apple TV for Youtube, The PS4 is for Battlefield 4, I use Airplay for anything else
carlob 13y ago
I did the same (but my screen is taller than yours is large :P), but I think there are a few reason why this hasn't seen larger adoption. People like to have their TV on all day long: with a projector you can't, because it won't be very visible in daylight and it will burn through lamps like it's popcorn. Second point, modern TVs usually have a tuner in, you plug them in and they work. Also you don't need to adjust the image until it's rectangular. You don't need to have a line of sight for a TV, chairs and people are not an issue.
- sentenza 13y ago
  You are right that of course, not everybody has my usage pattern. Since my daughter becomes a mindless, staring zombie whenever a TV is running in her field of vision, we only watch TV late in the evening (for us, a lamp lasts about two years). Before I first set it up, I expected the configuration to be a lot more tedious than it actually was. If you have the computer, some sort of sound system and your TV receiver lying around, all you need is a switch for the different audio sources and you can basically plug it all together. (In my setup, TV does not go through the computer. We don't have Hulu, HBO or Netflix over here.) I'd say about 80% of the work was mounting the beamer to the ceiling and getting the upper hand on the cable mess.
- ams6110 13y ago
  With many (most?) cable companies now encrypting even "basic" channels, you need to use their box to watch anything. At that point, you don't need a tuner, unless you're actually receiving over-the-air broadcast TV.
fegu 13y ago
Cables, for one. Most living rooms already have antenna plugs and power in one convenient wall or corner, where the TV is supposed to be located. The beamer needs to be opposite of this position (to beam at it). To not cast shadows, it will commonly need to be placed high. Not very popular with wifes, this setup.
- sentenza 13y ago
  Ok, I was lucky in that regard. Now it looks all neat, but the first time I set it up I was really, really sloppy. Fortunately my wife is a lab-hardened scientist, so the conversation went like this: Me: "Do you mind if I nail these cables to the walls in our living room?" Her: "Whatever. Just be done by tonight so we can watch something." This time, I worked with well-hidden cable conduits and it is not that noticeable any more.
WalterBright 13y ago
The fan noise for a projector can get fairly annoying.
- josu 13y ago
  Although your brain erases the noise after a while, it is indeed pretty annoying.
  - sentenza 13y ago
    I mentioned that I used a sound system. That is actually not quite accurate any more, since we had to make some adjustments when my daughter was born. At the time, we were living with an unfortunate flat layout which placed the bedroom directly next to the living room. So in order to avoid waking up the child, we started using headphones (and have never stopped doing so since). Since I had checked before buying the beamer that it wasn't too loud, using (good) headphones had the side-effect that beamer noise is now an absolute non-issue for us. I find it enlightening how all these responses show that my setup really isn't the right thing for everybody. In retrospect, I was also not consciously aware of all the quirks that my wife and I were willing to accept (headphones, cable conduits, TV only in the evening). Nonetheless, as beamers become brighter and less noisy (LED?), they will probably become attractive to a wider range of people.
yitchelle 13y ago
Try watching a projected picture on a canvas in brightly lit room. It can be difficult to view it if the room is not dimly lit. TV is still king in these situations.
largote 13y ago
Because projectors in a given price range have much lower image quality (contrast in particular) than TVs in the same price range.

dagw 13y ago

A couple of friend of mine have have gone with that solution and to be perfectly honest the bad image quality really annoys me on the cheap setups. The one setup that I've seen and liked cost in excesses of 2500€. I'd much rather have a 40" TV with the best image quality possible than a crappy 80" image from a cheap projector.

Joeri 13y ago
At my office they replaced the beamers with big ctouch touchscreens. It's a huge improvement even at the smaller diagonal because of the clear and sharp image. Plus, it's cool to stand there pulling stuff across the screen minority report style.

gnur 13y ago

Because contrast and brightness are much higher on televisons. Also, televisons often offer more features like usb, networking, sound and cec. I'm not entirely sure about most beamers, but I don't believe they offer the same integration with a chromecast or raspbmc that my current 500 euro sharp aquos does.

matthewrudy 13y ago
my setup is a Samsung 42" TV + AppleTV + a PS4. The colours and clarify are amazing (the sound isn't) I use the TV for BBC iPlayer, Netflix, and Viki (I'm into asian soap operas) I use the Apple TV for Youtube, The PS4 is for Battlefield 4, I use Airplay for anything else

carlob 13y ago

I did the same (but my screen is taller than yours is large :P), but I think there are a few reason why this hasn't seen larger adoption. People like to have their TV on all day long: with a projector you can't, because it won't be very visible in daylight and it will burn through lamps like it's popcorn. Second point, modern TVs usually have a tuner in, you plug them in and they work. Also you don't need to adjust the image until it's rectangular. You don't need to have a line of sight for a TV, chairs and people are not an issue.

sentenza 13y ago
You are right that of course, not everybody has my usage pattern. Since my daughter becomes a mindless, staring zombie whenever a TV is running in her field of vision, we only watch TV late in the evening (for us, a lamp lasts about two years). Before I first set it up, I expected the configuration to be a lot more tedious than it actually was. If you have the computer, some sort of sound system and your TV receiver lying around, all you need is a switch for the different audio sources and you can basically plug it all together. (In my setup, TV does not go through the computer. We don't have Hulu, HBO or Netflix over here.) I'd say about 80% of the work was mounting the beamer to the ceiling and getting the upper hand on the cable mess.
ams6110 13y ago
With many (most?) cable companies now encrypting even "basic" channels, you need to use their box to watch anything. At that point, you don't need a tuner, unless you're actually receiving over-the-air broadcast TV.

fegu 13y ago

Cables, for one. Most living rooms already have antenna plugs and power in one convenient wall or corner, where the TV is supposed to be located. The beamer needs to be opposite of this position (to beam at it). To not cast shadows, it will commonly need to be placed high. Not very popular with wifes, this setup.

sentenza 13y ago
Ok, I was lucky in that regard. Now it looks all neat, but the first time I set it up I was really, really sloppy. Fortunately my wife is a lab-hardened scientist, so the conversation went like this: Me: "Do you mind if I nail these cables to the walls in our living room?" Her: "Whatever. Just be done by tonight so we can watch something." This time, I worked with well-hidden cable conduits and it is not that noticeable any more.

WalterBright 13y ago

The fan noise for a projector can get fairly annoying.

josu 13y ago
Although your brain erases the noise after a while, it is indeed pretty annoying.
- sentenza 13y ago
  I mentioned that I used a sound system. That is actually not quite accurate any more, since we had to make some adjustments when my daughter was born. At the time, we were living with an unfortunate flat layout which placed the bedroom directly next to the living room. So in order to avoid waking up the child, we started using headphones (and have never stopped doing so since). Since I had checked before buying the beamer that it wasn't too loud, using (good) headphones had the side-effect that beamer noise is now an absolute non-issue for us. I find it enlightening how all these responses show that my setup really isn't the right thing for everybody. In retrospect, I was also not consciously aware of all the quirks that my wife and I were willing to accept (headphones, cable conduits, TV only in the evening). Nonetheless, as beamers become brighter and less noisy (LED?), they will probably become attractive to a wider range of people.

yitchelle 13y ago

Try watching a projected picture on a canvas in brightly lit room. It can be difficult to view it if the room is not dimly lit. TV is still king in these situations.

largote 13y ago

Because projectors in a given price range have much lower image quality (contrast in particular) than TVs in the same price range.