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Who's sending death threats? People who make money off having good athletes in universities regardless of their education levels? Athletes who are afraid of bei

by corin_ 13y ago

Who's sending death threats? People who make money off having good athletes in universities regardless of their education levels? Athletes who are afraid of being kicked out? Other? Four death threats seems awfully high for such a topic. And what was the university thinking? Seems like denying knowledge of the report and claiming they can't comment on it without data (to CNN, not to a high school newspaper) was a terrible move given they had not only been given the reports, but had paid for the data which was in them.

Scienz 13y ago
This is just a guess, but I would suspect it's the fans. I remember seeing actual riots at my former school over a football (the American variety) game - the cars flipped, fires started, campus-police-in-full-riot-gear-firing-tear-gas kind. The fans probably just associate it as some brainiac professor declaring war on their culture and insulting their beloved players, and respond with hatemail and death threats.
- thaumasiotes 13y ago
  > The fans probably just associate it as some brainiac professor declaring war on their culture and insulting their beloved players, and respond with hatemail and death threats. With due respect to the fans... hatemail and death threats just make me think their culture is even more awful. Who's supposed to be convinced here?
  - stoolpigeon 13y ago
    You are assuming that the people who make the death threats are rational. They aren't. They are being who they are, which as you say, shows just how awful their culture is. These are the people who would aid and abet a child molester if they thought it would help their 'team'.
mbillie1 13y ago
> People who make money off having good athletes in universities regardless of their education levels? You mean the type of people that pay college football coaches as much as ~$5M+/year? (http://www.businessinsider.com/the-25-highest-paid-coaches-in-college-football-2013-11?op=1 http://www.businessinsider.com/the-25-highest-paid-coaches-i...) No, I cannot imagine one of these fine institutions benefiting from valuing athletics above academics. Surely college sports is all about education.
- corin_ 13y ago
  Obviously they care more about athletics, that doesn't mean they'd go as far as death threats.
  - stoolpigeon 13y ago
    In a world where highly paid professionals in education will cover up and facilitate child molestation I don't know how any of this story can be considered anything but tame and completely believable. Collegiate athletics is one of the more corrupt systems in the USA.
epistasis 13y ago
As I get older and more aware I see rampant misogyny popping up wherever a woman challenges pretty much anything, and often merely for just existing. For something highly emotional like sports, such a reaction seems perfectly in line with what I see day to day, sadly. It's probably nobody with any power of even making any money off sports, quite the opposite, I'm sure.
- yummyfajitas 13y ago
  Because clearly, men don't get death threats or get investigated by the FBI when they challenge the football establishment or other sports stars. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/men-indicted-threatening-lance-prober-tygart-article-1.1403726 http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/men-indicted-threat... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337813/Anonymous-hacker-helped-publicize-Steubenville-football-players-social-media-NINE-years-prison-convicted-rapists.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337813/Anonymous-ha... Nor would a man ever get death threads just for the lulz. http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/4chan-bullied-the-og-youtube-fitness-guru-off-the-internet http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/4chan-bullied-the-og-youtub... It doesn't take a lot. I write a not very popular blog, most of which is posts like "Scala is slow" or "Analyzing conversion rates with Bayes rule", and I've gotten an email or two expressing hope that harm would come to me [1]. [1] "if u get your wish just wait the cops womt protect you when underclas riot and hurt u". This was in response to a moderately popular blog post advocating that you should do a back of the envelope calculation to see if a public policy proposal makes sense ( http://www.chrisstucchio.com/blog/2013/basic_income_vs_basic_job.html http://www.chrisstucchio.com/blog/2013/basic_income_vs_basic... ).
  - detcader 13y ago
    epistasis was talking about women's experiences and misogyny, sorry that seems to bother you
    - BSousa 13y ago
      I think what he was trying to say is that these actions aren't really related to misogyny at all since they are also directed towards men, but general human idiocy.
cust_support 13y ago
I up-voted your response; hopefully it helps. As you pointed out, I don't think the issue here is the relationship between college football and professional football although nearly every other response was about the game. More importantly: why is this university distancing itself from a study by one of its professors and why is this professor getting death threats for doing her job.

by corin_ 13y ago

Scienz 13y ago

This is just a guess, but I would suspect it's the fans. I remember seeing actual riots at my former school over a football (the American variety) game - the cars flipped, fires started, campus-police-in-full-riot-gear-firing-tear-gas kind. The fans probably just associate it as some brainiac professor declaring war on their culture and insulting their beloved players, and respond with hatemail and death threats.

thaumasiotes 13y ago
> The fans probably just associate it as some brainiac professor declaring war on their culture and insulting their beloved players, and respond with hatemail and death threats. With due respect to the fans... hatemail and death threats just make me think their culture is even more awful. Who's supposed to be convinced here?
- stoolpigeon 13y ago
  You are assuming that the people who make the death threats are rational. They aren't. They are being who they are, which as you say, shows just how awful their culture is. These are the people who would aid and abet a child molester if they thought it would help their 'team'.

mbillie1 13y ago

> People who make money off having good athletes in universities regardless of their education levels? You mean the type of people that pay college football coaches as much as ~$5M+/year? (http://www.businessinsider.com/the-25-highest-paid-coaches-in-college-football-2013-11?op=1 http://www.businessinsider.com/the-25-highest-paid-coaches-i...) No, I cannot imagine one of these fine institutions benefiting from valuing athletics above academics. Surely college sports is all about education.

corin_ 13y ago
Obviously they care more about athletics, that doesn't mean they'd go as far as death threats.
- stoolpigeon 13y ago
  In a world where highly paid professionals in education will cover up and facilitate child molestation I don't know how any of this story can be considered anything but tame and completely believable. Collegiate athletics is one of the more corrupt systems in the USA.

epistasis 13y ago

As I get older and more aware I see rampant misogyny popping up wherever a woman challenges pretty much anything, and often merely for just existing. For something highly emotional like sports, such a reaction seems perfectly in line with what I see day to day, sadly. It's probably nobody with any power of even making any money off sports, quite the opposite, I'm sure.

yummyfajitas 13y ago
Because clearly, men don't get death threats or get investigated by the FBI when they challenge the football establishment or other sports stars. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/men-indicted-threatening-lance-prober-tygart-article-1.1403726 http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/men-indicted-threat... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337813/Anonymous-hacker-helped-publicize-Steubenville-football-players-social-media-NINE-years-prison-convicted-rapists.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337813/Anonymous-ha... Nor would a man ever get death threads just for the lulz. http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/4chan-bullied-the-og-youtube-fitness-guru-off-the-internet http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/4chan-bullied-the-og-youtub... It doesn't take a lot. I write a not very popular blog, most of which is posts like "Scala is slow" or "Analyzing conversion rates with Bayes rule", and I've gotten an email or two expressing hope that harm would come to me [1]. [1] "if u get your wish just wait the cops womt protect you when underclas riot and hurt u". This was in response to a moderately popular blog post advocating that you should do a back of the envelope calculation to see if a public policy proposal makes sense ( http://www.chrisstucchio.com/blog/2013/basic_income_vs_basic_job.html http://www.chrisstucchio.com/blog/2013/basic_income_vs_basic... ).
- detcader 13y ago
  epistasis was talking about women's experiences and misogyny, sorry that seems to bother you
  - BSousa 13y ago
    I think what he was trying to say is that these actions aren't really related to misogyny at all since they are also directed towards men, but general human idiocy.

cust_support 13y ago

I up-voted your response; hopefully it helps. As you pointed out, I don't think the issue here is the relationship between college football and professional football although nearly every other response was about the game. More importantly: why is this university distancing itself from a study by one of its professors and why is this professor getting death threats for doing her job.