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Does anyone know if the 15" 2012 MBPR (that is, MacBookPro10,1) supports 4K with its HDMI output under Mavericks? Of course, it will only be 30Hz, but that's to

Does anyone know if the 15" 2012 MBPR (that is, MacBookPro10,1) supports 4K with its HDMI output under Mavericks? Of course, it will only be 30Hz, but that's tolerable.

daeken 13y ago
From what I can tell (running the same unit you are), only the 2013 rMBPs will drive 4k panels. Would love to be wrong on that, though.
- phamilton 13y ago
  I've got an early 2013 rMBP with the NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M and it drives 4k at 30 Hz over HDMI.
  - dustyleary 13y ago
    Can you reply with your Model Identifier? Click the Apple icon in the top left of the menu bar, choose "About This Mac", click "More Info", click "System Report", and on the first screen ("Hardware Overview"), the Model Identifier will be displayed. Mine is "MacBookPro10,1". I would love to verify that it is capable of driving these 4k displays, if you wouldn't mind checking.
    - phamilton 13y ago
      MacBookPro10,1
  - jmgrosen 13y ago
    Huh. Apparently that one's identical to Mid 2012 except for a tiny improvement in CPU, so that sounds promising. Thanks!
  - shurcooL 13y ago
    Thanks for confirming!
- FootballMuse 13y ago
  My 2012 (MacBookPro10,1) works with Mavericks out of the box. I use SwitchRezX to get it up to 31Hz.
wyager 13y ago
I've read officially no, but Apple frequently gives "official" specs that claim a feature isn't supported when really it is. For example, every macbook pro in the last 5 or 6 years that had replaceable RAM had an actual RAM limit that was double what Apple said was its RAM limit. I wouldn't be surprised if 4K works, albeit perhaps a little sluggishly.
- polymatter 13y ago
  Why would Apple do this? What possible reason could they have for selling their own product short?
  - zaphoyd 13y ago
    Apple simply does not cater to the crowd that does aftermarket upgrades to their computers. The limits they list on the box are usually the top configurations they will sell you. They do not bother testing and certifying every combination of third party component that might happen to fit into the machine and work.
  - xutopia 13y ago
    Removing the amount of choices in front of people allows people to feel more confident about theirs. If you give them the option for 4Gb, 8Gb, 16Gb and 32Gb instead of limiting to 16Gb lots of people will freeze and never make a choice or get frustrated when they see the markup for 32Gb and avoid buying altogether because of that. In limiting the amount of upgradable RAM on their sales page they show you choices that are most likely going to be easy to sell.
  - wyager 13y ago
    They probably figure it won't necessarily work very well, so people would complain, so they'd rather just short-sell their machines.
- sosborn 13y ago
  >Apple frequently gives "official" specs that claim a feature isn't supported when really it is. "Supported" is not the same thing as "it works".
theatrus2 13y ago
The late 2013 drives at 30Hz over HDMI, and 60Hz over DP if you are running Windows. I don't think the HDMI hardware is new enough in the 2012 for HDMI, though in theory display port might work if the drivers get enabled for it.
houkouonchi 13y ago
It does. I have the 2012 first macbook pro retina (bought it the day it came out for its 2880x1800 display back in June or July of 2012). You need to be running Mavericks to use its native HDMI port. I am running the default version it came with (10.7.x) so it only works on the HDMI port under linux (which I primarily use on it) and Windows. That being said I use an Accel Active DP 1.1 -> HDMI 1.4 adapter which makes it work just fine even on older version of mac os X. Actually with that adapter you can use a lot of even much older macs to drive the seiki or any other 4k 30hz display. The adapter: http://www.amazon.com/Accell-B086B-008B-UltraAV-DisplayPort-Adapter/dp/B00ESFEUSG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389578834&sr=8-1&keywords=accell+hdmi+1.4 http://www.amazon.com/Accell-B086B-008B-UltraAV-DisplayPort-...

Does anyone know if the 15" 2012 MBPR (that is, MacBookPro10,1) supports 4K with its HDMI output under Mavericks? Of course, it will only be 30Hz, but that's tolerable.

daeken 13y ago

From what I can tell (running the same unit you are), only the 2013 rMBPs will drive 4k panels. Would love to be wrong on that, though.

phamilton 13y ago
I've got an early 2013 rMBP with the NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M and it drives 4k at 30 Hz over HDMI.
- dustyleary 13y ago
  Can you reply with your Model Identifier? Click the Apple icon in the top left of the menu bar, choose "About This Mac", click "More Info", click "System Report", and on the first screen ("Hardware Overview"), the Model Identifier will be displayed. Mine is "MacBookPro10,1". I would love to verify that it is capable of driving these 4k displays, if you wouldn't mind checking.
  - phamilton 13y ago
    MacBookPro10,1
- jmgrosen 13y ago
  Huh. Apparently that one's identical to Mid 2012 except for a tiny improvement in CPU, so that sounds promising. Thanks!
- shurcooL 13y ago
  Thanks for confirming!
FootballMuse 13y ago
My 2012 (MacBookPro10,1) works with Mavericks out of the box. I use SwitchRezX to get it up to 31Hz.

wyager 13y ago

I've read officially no, but Apple frequently gives "official" specs that claim a feature isn't supported when really it is. For example, every macbook pro in the last 5 or 6 years that had replaceable RAM had an actual RAM limit that was double what Apple said was its RAM limit. I wouldn't be surprised if 4K works, albeit perhaps a little sluggishly.

polymatter 13y ago
Why would Apple do this? What possible reason could they have for selling their own product short?
- zaphoyd 13y ago
  Apple simply does not cater to the crowd that does aftermarket upgrades to their computers. The limits they list on the box are usually the top configurations they will sell you. They do not bother testing and certifying every combination of third party component that might happen to fit into the machine and work.
- xutopia 13y ago
  Removing the amount of choices in front of people allows people to feel more confident about theirs. If you give them the option for 4Gb, 8Gb, 16Gb and 32Gb instead of limiting to 16Gb lots of people will freeze and never make a choice or get frustrated when they see the markup for 32Gb and avoid buying altogether because of that. In limiting the amount of upgradable RAM on their sales page they show you choices that are most likely going to be easy to sell.
- wyager 13y ago
  They probably figure it won't necessarily work very well, so people would complain, so they'd rather just short-sell their machines.
sosborn 13y ago
>Apple frequently gives "official" specs that claim a feature isn't supported when really it is. "Supported" is not the same thing as "it works".

theatrus2 13y ago

The late 2013 drives at 30Hz over HDMI, and 60Hz over DP if you are running Windows. I don't think the HDMI hardware is new enough in the 2012 for HDMI, though in theory display port might work if the drivers get enabled for it.

houkouonchi 13y ago

It does. I have the 2012 first macbook pro retina (bought it the day it came out for its 2880x1800 display back in June or July of 2012). You need to be running Mavericks to use its native HDMI port. I am running the default version it came with (10.7.x) so it only works on the HDMI port under linux (which I primarily use on it) and Windows. That being said I use an Accel Active DP 1.1 -> HDMI 1.4 adapter which makes it work just fine even on older version of mac os X. Actually with that adapter you can use a lot of even much older macs to drive the seiki or any other 4k 30hz display. The adapter: http://www.amazon.com/Accell-B086B-008B-UltraAV-DisplayPort-Adapter/dp/B00ESFEUSG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389578834&sr=8-1&keywords=accell+hdmi+1.4 http://www.amazon.com/Accell-B086B-008B-UltraAV-DisplayPort-...