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If that's true, then yes, a reboot seems about as likely as the Pope declaring his atheism. Well, maybe less likely, because the Pope is just one person. Well,

If that's true, then yes, a reboot seems about as likely as the Pope declaring his atheism. Well, maybe less likely, because the Pope is just one person. Well, the reformation did happen. And the Soviet Union did fall. And Deng Xiaoping did say, "It matters not the color of the cat, but whether it catches the mouse". The problem is, that the leaders of these states all had positive examples to follow. The U.S. has no positive example of what a good management structure looks like. Perhaps, but even a total collapse of USG or the formation of the fabled NAU conservatives keep droning on about would surprise me less. I'm not familiar with the concept of NAU conserveratives. Mind explaining? So do you have any ideas about what should happen? Or what will happen?

johnnybgoode 17y ago
> Well, the reformation did happen. And the Soviet Union did fall. And Deng Xiaoping did say, "It matters not the color of the cat, but whether it catches the mouse". Agreed; I wouldn't say it's impossible. > The problem is, that the leaders of these states all had positive examples to follow. The U.S. has no positive example of what a good management structure looks like. Maybe you're right. The changes required for USG seem more drastic to me than those that were applied in the Soviet Union or China, though. After all, Protestants are still Christians. > I'm not familiar with the concept of NAU conserveratives. Mind explaining? Sorry, I was referring to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union This scares some conservatives to death, particularly the ones who worship the Constitution. I think the biggest change we'd see is different text on some signs, and I'm exaggerating only slightly. > So do you have any ideas about what should happen? Or what will happen? My ideal looks somewhat similar to "Patchwork", but without the joint stock corporate management structure, which I believe has some fatal flaws. As for what will happen, I can't say I'm sure, but I'd guess some sort of catastrophic financial collapse and associated instability. As we know, the worldwide financial system is horribly engineered. We can try to be optimistic about what comes after that, but realistically things could get pretty ugly. The parts of the world that are mostly disconnected from the financial system will be relatively okay; spontaneous order could arise in small pockets of the developed world as well, but much of the West could plunge into violence and chaos for some time.

johnnybgoode 17y ago

> Well, the reformation did happen. And the Soviet Union did fall. And Deng Xiaoping did say, "It matters not the color of the cat, but whether it catches the mouse". Agreed; I wouldn't say it's impossible. > The problem is, that the leaders of these states all had positive examples to follow. The U.S. has no positive example of what a good management structure looks like. Maybe you're right. The changes required for USG seem more drastic to me than those that were applied in the Soviet Union or China, though. After all, Protestants are still Christians. > I'm not familiar with the concept of NAU conserveratives. Mind explaining? Sorry, I was referring to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union This scares some conservatives to death, particularly the ones who worship the Constitution. I think the biggest change we'd see is different text on some signs, and I'm exaggerating only slightly. > So do you have any ideas about what should happen? Or what will happen? My ideal looks somewhat similar to "Patchwork", but without the joint stock corporate management structure, which I believe has some fatal flaws. As for what will happen, I can't say I'm sure, but I'd guess some sort of catastrophic financial collapse and associated instability. As we know, the worldwide financial system is horribly engineered. We can try to be optimistic about what comes after that, but realistically things could get pretty ugly. The parts of the world that are mostly disconnected from the financial system will be relatively okay; spontaneous order could arise in small pockets of the developed world as well, but much of the West could plunge into violence and chaos for some time.