3 ms·

"by some asshole speeding in the shoulder as traffic was backed up." fun driving and reckless endangerment of the people on the road around you, including aggr

"by some asshole speeding in the shoulder as traffic was backed up." fun driving and reckless endangerment of the people on the road around you, including aggressive disregard for the rules of the road, especially driving on the shoulder are two very, very, very different things. Raise the speed limits and make fines and enforcement more frequent for not using turn signals, aggressive lane-changing where other people are on the road, tail-gating, driving in the shoulder (REALLY???) and so on. Oh, and make that driving test harder.

TeMPOraL 13y ago
I'd say lower the speed limits. And implement ANPR systems on every straight part of every road, make them enforce those limits in a ruthlessly automated way. That should finally let traffic engineers do some real work optimizing the road network. And then of course ban non self-driving cars from public roads the moment it becomes feasible. EDIT: disregard the "lower the speed limits" part. I'm not sure why I wrote it (it was a long and tiring day...). Speed limits are mostly fine, but adherence to them is not. I stand by the rest of the comment.
- sukuriant 13y ago
  Roads are already engineered in the general case for faster than the speed limit. Why do you want them to go even slower?
  - TeMPOraL 13y ago
    You're right; I'm not sure why I wrote about lowering them.
rayiner 13y ago
> fun driving and reckless endangerment of the people on the road around you, including aggressive disregard for the rules of the road, especially driving on the shoulder are two very, very, very different things. The two are not disjoint things. A lot of people, particularly teenagers, engage in reckless driving behaviors because it's fun.
- sukuriant 13y ago
  And that particular style of 'fun driving' should be disallowed. It's not even allowed on race tracks; but there are other kinds of fun driving that I don't think should be stopped. You're associating the two more closely than I am. Then again, I have a lot of fun driving many of the roads that I drive on and the fun that I have doesn't include the things I mentioned in my negatives list.

TeMPOraL 13y ago

I'd say lower the speed limits. And implement ANPR systems on every straight part of every road, make them enforce those limits in a ruthlessly automated way. That should finally let traffic engineers do some real work optimizing the road network. And then of course ban non self-driving cars from public roads the moment it becomes feasible. EDIT: disregard the "lower the speed limits" part. I'm not sure why I wrote it (it was a long and tiring day...). Speed limits are mostly fine, but adherence to them is not. I stand by the rest of the comment.

sukuriant 13y ago
Roads are already engineered in the general case for faster than the speed limit. Why do you want them to go even slower?
- TeMPOraL 13y ago
  You're right; I'm not sure why I wrote about lowering them.

rayiner 13y ago

> fun driving and reckless endangerment of the people on the road around you, including aggressive disregard for the rules of the road, especially driving on the shoulder are two very, very, very different things. The two are not disjoint things. A lot of people, particularly teenagers, engage in reckless driving behaviors because it's fun.

sukuriant 13y ago
And that particular style of 'fun driving' should be disallowed. It's not even allowed on race tracks; but there are other kinds of fun driving that I don't think should be stopped. You're associating the two more closely than I am. Then again, I have a lot of fun driving many of the roads that I drive on and the fun that I have doesn't include the things I mentioned in my negatives list.