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Do we have anything like that in the works right now? Everything seems to be fairly straightforward evolutions of the x86 or ARM--though maybe the innovation is

Do we have anything like that in the works right now? Everything seems to be fairly straightforward evolutions of the x86 or ARM--though maybe the innovation is happening over in FPGAs or business-not-tech venues?

sliverstorm 13y ago
Well, if that sort of thing is indeed in the works, I doubt anyone would tell us- competitive advantage and all that- but it has been ten years since the Opteron 240. Maybe it will be time for the next one soon. It could even be one of many technologies recently on the market. "Influence" is a legacy; you can't see it on launch day. Maybe one day we will look back on hUMA [0] and say it was one of those Things? The PS4 processor in particular, as the first processor with hUMA. Although, it does look to me like innovation is more gradual now just as a matter of fact- the business cycle is much shorter now. The 4004 was released in '71, the 8088 in '79, but today every chip vendor releases a new chip every six months, so changes will naturally be spread across releases and it will be harder to point and say "There, right there, that is where the world changed" [0]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_memory_access#hUMA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_memory_access#hUMA
MrBuddyCasino 13y ago
I agree with hUMA, but don't forget that the game is now mostly about power efficiency. Also, GPUs.
Symmetry 13y ago
Probably this if anything: http://ootbcomp.com/ http://ootbcomp.com/ EDIT: They're releasing explanations as they submit patents, so not everything is public yet. I just submitted the most recent talk. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7027115 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7027115
bunderbunder 13y ago
I imagine in another few years the Intel Core Duo will make the list, because of its status as the first major multicore CPU on the consumer market. Realize that's still x86. I'm not sure we'll see that change, though. Another hugely influential Intel chip is behind that story: Itanium marks the point at which it became clear that the market's no longer receptive to completely new ISAs in general-purpose CPUs.
- Someone 13y ago
  I think the market would have embraced Itanium, if it had been significantly faster. Also, markets change. Today, 'normal' people don't care about CPU architectures. Who cares what his phone runs on, as long as it runs with low power use?

sliverstorm 13y ago

Well, if that sort of thing is indeed in the works, I doubt anyone would tell us- competitive advantage and all that- but it has been ten years since the Opteron 240. Maybe it will be time for the next one soon. It could even be one of many technologies recently on the market. "Influence" is a legacy; you can't see it on launch day. Maybe one day we will look back on hUMA [0] and say it was one of those Things? The PS4 processor in particular, as the first processor with hUMA. Although, it does look to me like innovation is more gradual now just as a matter of fact- the business cycle is much shorter now. The 4004 was released in '71, the 8088 in '79, but today every chip vendor releases a new chip every six months, so changes will naturally be spread across releases and it will be harder to point and say "There, right there, that is where the world changed" [0]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_memory_access#hUMA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_memory_access#hUMA

MrBuddyCasino 13y ago

I agree with hUMA, but don't forget that the game is now mostly about power efficiency. Also, GPUs.

Symmetry 13y ago

Probably this if anything: http://ootbcomp.com/ http://ootbcomp.com/ EDIT: They're releasing explanations as they submit patents, so not everything is public yet. I just submitted the most recent talk. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7027115 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7027115

bunderbunder 13y ago

I imagine in another few years the Intel Core Duo will make the list, because of its status as the first major multicore CPU on the consumer market. Realize that's still x86. I'm not sure we'll see that change, though. Another hugely influential Intel chip is behind that story: Itanium marks the point at which it became clear that the market's no longer receptive to completely new ISAs in general-purpose CPUs.

Someone 13y ago
I think the market would have embraced Itanium, if it had been significantly faster. Also, markets change. Today, 'normal' people don't care about CPU architectures. Who cares what his phone runs on, as long as it runs with low power use?