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I don't think anyone can reasonably expect Firefox OS to "win" over iOS and Android in the foreseeable future. In fact, the target market is completely differen

I don't think anyone can reasonably expect Firefox OS to "win" over iOS and Android in the foreseeable future. In fact, the target market is completely different; Firefox OS is marketing itself as a no-frills, low-cost alternative with an emphasis on developing countries. In that space, I think it can definitely "win", but it's far too late for it to compete with the big players in the developed world.

mathattack 13y ago
Exactly - are we hoping for Firefox to win, or just to survive?
- Groxx 13y ago
  Probably to win over a different target: Nokia.
  - sliverstorm 13y ago
    In that case, I'm sure not hoping for them to win. Nokia hardware has always been my favorite.
    - fabrice_d 13y ago
      Firefox OS is not tied to one hardware manufacturer. Indeed Nokia hardware is great - I'd like to find time to port fxos on my n9!
      - sliverstorm 13y ago
        Clearly Nokia has switched OS at least once (Windows Phone) but I see them a lot like iPhones. The software and hardware comes as a package. They are apart from the Samsung/HTC/Huawei/LG/IForgetTheRest group that runs whatever OS is useful.
- sp332 13y ago
  I don't care if the Firefox OS wins, as long as its APIs are standardized and incorporated into other OS's.
  - deleted 13y ago
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    - sp332 13y ago
      But there are a lot of APIs required. Web apps didn't have access to even basic things like the phone dialer before (on Android or iOS at least).
kllrnohj 13y ago
Android is free AND has widespread driver support from SoC vendors. Firefox OS uses more hardware resources to achieve the same tasks and has less vendor support. In fact, what little driver support it currently has from vendors comes from the fact that it's actually sitting on top of Android (a fact that's often ignored). Which one is low-cost again?
- RussianCow 13y ago
  I don't mean cost in terms of software efficiency. I mean that Firefox phones are generally going to cost less (in terms of money) than Android ones. As a plus, you don't have to tie your phone to any company's services (Google, Apple, etc). And don't forget that Firefox OS is much newer than Android, so you really can't compare them side-by-side like that. Let's drop the dramatic fanboyism, hmm?
  - kllrnohj 13y ago
    > I mean that Firefox phones are generally going to cost less (in terms of money) than Android ones. I know what you meant, I was pointing out you were wrong. If the device costs more to an OEM to make (which Firefox OS does), then it's going to cost the user more to purchase. This is basic stuff here... > As a plus, you don't have to tie your phone to any company's services (Google, Apple, etc). Android isn't tied to any company's services. > Let's drop the dramatic fanboyism, hmm? Er, right back at you?

mathattack 13y ago

Exactly - are we hoping for Firefox to win, or just to survive?

Groxx 13y ago
Probably to win over a different target: Nokia.
- sliverstorm 13y ago
  In that case, I'm sure not hoping for them to win. Nokia hardware has always been my favorite.
  - fabrice_d 13y ago
    Firefox OS is not tied to one hardware manufacturer. Indeed Nokia hardware is great - I'd like to find time to port fxos on my n9!
    - sliverstorm 13y ago
      Clearly Nokia has switched OS at least once (Windows Phone) but I see them a lot like iPhones. The software and hardware comes as a package. They are apart from the Samsung/HTC/Huawei/LG/IForgetTheRest group that runs whatever OS is useful.
sp332 13y ago
I don't care if the Firefox OS wins, as long as its APIs are standardized and incorporated into other OS's.
- deleted 13y ago
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  - sp332 13y ago
    But there are a lot of APIs required. Web apps didn't have access to even basic things like the phone dialer before (on Android or iOS at least).

kllrnohj 13y ago

Android is free AND has widespread driver support from SoC vendors. Firefox OS uses more hardware resources to achieve the same tasks and has less vendor support. In fact, what little driver support it currently has from vendors comes from the fact that it's actually sitting on top of Android (a fact that's often ignored). Which one is low-cost again?

RussianCow 13y ago
I don't mean cost in terms of software efficiency. I mean that Firefox phones are generally going to cost less (in terms of money) than Android ones. As a plus, you don't have to tie your phone to any company's services (Google, Apple, etc). And don't forget that Firefox OS is much newer than Android, so you really can't compare them side-by-side like that. Let's drop the dramatic fanboyism, hmm?
- kllrnohj 13y ago
  > I mean that Firefox phones are generally going to cost less (in terms of money) than Android ones. I know what you meant, I was pointing out you were wrong. If the device costs more to an OEM to make (which Firefox OS does), then it's going to cost the user more to purchase. This is basic stuff here... > As a plus, you don't have to tie your phone to any company's services (Google, Apple, etc). Android isn't tied to any company's services. > Let's drop the dramatic fanboyism, hmm? Er, right back at you?