I'm not sure you disagree with me. I'm not saying the abuses are new. I'm saying that those abuses happened in the context of trying to, for instance, suppres

I'm not sure you disagree with me. I'm not saying the abuses are new. I'm saying that those abuses happened in the context of trying to, for instance, suppress large-scale domestic insurgency in the context of a cold war against a state-level foe that specialized in generating domestic insurgencies. Compared to that, you have a "group" so paltry that every couple years the FBI has to convince a mentally unstable guy to "join al qaeda" so he can be busted. Yet, the level of pants-wetting insecurity seems to be much higher.