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This is no conspiracy theory whatsoever, this is just politics as usual. To believe that the US does NOT engage in covert actions in Iran is more of a conspirac

This is no conspiracy theory whatsoever, this is just politics as usual. To believe that the US does NOT engage in covert actions in Iran is more of a conspiracy theory. They readily admitted it several times. Check this out e.g.: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1552784/Bush-sanctions-black-ops-against-Iran.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1552784/Bush-sanct... When people can't say anything of value they resort to the conspiracy theory shut up technique and attack others on a personal level.

berntb 17y ago
You mean it is not a conspiracy theory to imply that US agents faked twitter discussions to make the world think the Iranians was protesting? :-) >> It looked very staged and not spontaneous. They could have been US government agents I am sorry, but that is just not sane. Edit: Like this, then. It is well documented that Iranians were protesting until shut down by violence. Can you give a reason why anyone would have an advantage to fake that the well documented protesters would fake twitter discussions about it?! It do sound like a classic Middle East conspiracy (and USA/Israel are the evil behind it!) I really hope you're a troll.
- onreact-com 17y ago
  Come on, how old are you? What do you think government agents working in Iran get paid for? Hang out in bars? In this case they most probably amplified the information the world wants to hear "evil Iranian governments attacks poor righteous Iranian dissidents". They always did that, long before Twitter. I want to see the US State Department caring for protests in the US but how come I don't read much about those? I don't say that the Iranian government are shiny happy people but the primitive binary opposition evil Iranian government, good US government does not work, not even with a nice and friendly Obama in charge. Just beacuse you don't have a clue about politics does not mean you can call me "insane". I didn't know that this is a flame wars forum. When you get older you hopefully will start to discern shades of grey. Apparently you still believe in fairy tales.
  - berntb 17y ago
    Do I HAVE to write this? You argue the US government would take large risks to get egg on their face just to emphasize what is well documented anyway. If you're not trolling, you're a conspiracy nut. Think about motivation and risk. Everyone asks the questions: What is the cost, what can you earn, what do you risk? Arguably, the risk of getting caught is high, the payoff trivial and getting caught would really help the wrong people. The CIA etc can just sit and watch this clusterfuck play out, without taking over twitter... I find it amusing that you assume anyone thinking you're spouting nonsense thinks of the world in black and white. Your history explains that.
    - onreact-com 17y ago
      Stop offending me pal. The case that you can't accept some simple facts of foreign policy doesn't mean you can flame here. You're the troll. Stop shouting pal. Just because you're shouting your ignorance doesn't become more accurate. I even cited a source where you can look it up what you decided to ignore.
      - berntb 17y ago
        >Stop offending me pal. That will be hard, considering your comment history where you've been repeatedly downmodded to whitespace for politicizing everything. >Just because you're shouting your ignorance doesn't become more accurate. It is trivial logic that astroturfing twitter doesn't have a good cost/benefit ratio here. (A short win in the daily news to bring home a point already well known -- against total propaganda failure.) You prefer to argue a conspiracy theory that anything bad happening to Iran's regime comes from USA. I'm sorry, but my considered opinion is that I hope you're a troll, because the alternative is depressing.

berntb 17y ago

You mean it is not a conspiracy theory to imply that US agents faked twitter discussions to make the world think the Iranians was protesting? :-) >> It looked very staged and not spontaneous. They could have been US government agents I am sorry, but that is just not sane. Edit: Like this, then. It is well documented that Iranians were protesting until shut down by violence. Can you give a reason why anyone would have an advantage to fake that the well documented protesters would fake twitter discussions about it?! It do sound like a classic Middle East conspiracy (and USA/Israel are the evil behind it!) I really hope you're a troll.

onreact-com 17y ago
Come on, how old are you? What do you think government agents working in Iran get paid for? Hang out in bars? In this case they most probably amplified the information the world wants to hear "evil Iranian governments attacks poor righteous Iranian dissidents". They always did that, long before Twitter. I want to see the US State Department caring for protests in the US but how come I don't read much about those? I don't say that the Iranian government are shiny happy people but the primitive binary opposition evil Iranian government, good US government does not work, not even with a nice and friendly Obama in charge. Just beacuse you don't have a clue about politics does not mean you can call me "insane". I didn't know that this is a flame wars forum. When you get older you hopefully will start to discern shades of grey. Apparently you still believe in fairy tales.
- berntb 17y ago
  Do I HAVE to write this? You argue the US government would take large risks to get egg on their face just to emphasize what is well documented anyway. If you're not trolling, you're a conspiracy nut. Think about motivation and risk. Everyone asks the questions: What is the cost, what can you earn, what do you risk? Arguably, the risk of getting caught is high, the payoff trivial and getting caught would really help the wrong people. The CIA etc can just sit and watch this clusterfuck play out, without taking over twitter... I find it amusing that you assume anyone thinking you're spouting nonsense thinks of the world in black and white. Your history explains that.
  - onreact-com 17y ago
    Stop offending me pal. The case that you can't accept some simple facts of foreign policy doesn't mean you can flame here. You're the troll. Stop shouting pal. Just because you're shouting your ignorance doesn't become more accurate. I even cited a source where you can look it up what you decided to ignore.
    - berntb 17y ago
      >Stop offending me pal. That will be hard, considering your comment history where you've been repeatedly downmodded to whitespace for politicizing everything. >Just because you're shouting your ignorance doesn't become more accurate. It is trivial logic that astroturfing twitter doesn't have a good cost/benefit ratio here. (A short win in the daily news to bring home a point already well known -- against total propaganda failure.) You prefer to argue a conspiracy theory that anything bad happening to Iran's regime comes from USA. I'm sorry, but my considered opinion is that I hope you're a troll, because the alternative is depressing.