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Does the system let you create a new facebook account or only login with an existing one? If I were to see this system in place, I'd just create a new fake fac

Does the system let you create a new facebook account or only login with an existing one? If I were to see this system in place, I'd just create a new fake facebook account. So long as the system doesn't have some draconian 'log in with an account older than 1 month with 10 friends' type thing, I don't think I'd mind, and I'm solidly in the 'facebook is evil' crowd.

ezrameanshelp 13y ago
I would just do the check-in and set privacy to "Only Me" - like I do every time an app share-walls me.
jamesaguilar 13y ago
Doesn't draconian normally mean excessive? It wouldn't be draconian considering you're proposing to engage in the exact abuse such a measure would be meant to fix.
- tdumitrescu 13y ago
  'Draconian' does not mean 'excessive'. It means stringent, severe, brutally strict.
  - jamesaguilar 13y ago
    https://www.google.com/search?q=draconian https://www.google.com/search?q=draconian Has the word "excessive" in the definition. I think it's at a minimum connoted in most applications of the word. Anyway, it doesn't matter how it's defined, I was only trying to understand whether the OP meant "excessive" or just "something I don't like."
    - mynewwork 13y ago
      I choose the word draconian because I thought it was the best word to describe the idea I was trying to convey. If I had to rephrase, I suppose that all of 'strict', 'harsh' and 'excessive' would be fair words to use in describing it. As to your original comment, it can be both draconian and effective. The requirement could be that in addition to your facebook account, you also must upload a photo of yourself, holding government-issued ID, standing in front of the store, etc etc. That would make it even harder to use the wifi anonymously (abuse their system), but would clearly be a draconian measure.
- ForHackernews 13y ago
  Are you really claiming that creating a fake facebook account is "abuse"?
  - jamesaguilar 13y ago
    In the sense that it violates a social contract? That is, WIFI access in exchange for repping this spot to your friends in however minor a fashion? In the sense of behavior that you as a service provider wish to prevent? Yeah, in all those senses, it is "abuse."
    - ForHackernews 13y ago
      To me, "abuse" is a term with pretty strong connotations, and in some cases legal ramifications (e.g. "Computer Fraud and Abuse Act"). We're living in an environment where "exceeding authorized access" (whatever that means) carries the potential for decades-long prison sentences. If I think about how we use that word in other contexts: "spousal abuse", "drug abuse", "sexual abuse", I find it quite a stretch to apply the same term to giving a bogus email address to a marketing firm.
      - jamesaguilar 13y ago
        I am sorry that you do not like how the term is used, but it is a fairly common way to phrase it among internet companies.
    - zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 13y ago
      I think you overlooked that they violated the social contract first by requiring you to submit to surveillance, so all I am doing is to protect me from their abuse.
      - jbigelow76 13y ago
        The "social contract" now includes wifi?

ezrameanshelp 13y ago

I would just do the check-in and set privacy to "Only Me" - like I do every time an app share-walls me.

jamesaguilar 13y ago

Doesn't draconian normally mean excessive? It wouldn't be draconian considering you're proposing to engage in the exact abuse such a measure would be meant to fix.

tdumitrescu 13y ago
'Draconian' does not mean 'excessive'. It means stringent, severe, brutally strict.
- jamesaguilar 13y ago
  https://www.google.com/search?q=draconian https://www.google.com/search?q=draconian Has the word "excessive" in the definition. I think it's at a minimum connoted in most applications of the word. Anyway, it doesn't matter how it's defined, I was only trying to understand whether the OP meant "excessive" or just "something I don't like."
  - mynewwork 13y ago
    I choose the word draconian because I thought it was the best word to describe the idea I was trying to convey. If I had to rephrase, I suppose that all of 'strict', 'harsh' and 'excessive' would be fair words to use in describing it. As to your original comment, it can be both draconian and effective. The requirement could be that in addition to your facebook account, you also must upload a photo of yourself, holding government-issued ID, standing in front of the store, etc etc. That would make it even harder to use the wifi anonymously (abuse their system), but would clearly be a draconian measure.
ForHackernews 13y ago
Are you really claiming that creating a fake facebook account is "abuse"?
- jamesaguilar 13y ago
  In the sense that it violates a social contract? That is, WIFI access in exchange for repping this spot to your friends in however minor a fashion? In the sense of behavior that you as a service provider wish to prevent? Yeah, in all those senses, it is "abuse."
  - ForHackernews 13y ago
    To me, "abuse" is a term with pretty strong connotations, and in some cases legal ramifications (e.g. "Computer Fraud and Abuse Act"). We're living in an environment where "exceeding authorized access" (whatever that means) carries the potential for decades-long prison sentences. If I think about how we use that word in other contexts: "spousal abuse", "drug abuse", "sexual abuse", I find it quite a stretch to apply the same term to giving a bogus email address to a marketing firm.
    - jamesaguilar 13y ago
      I am sorry that you do not like how the term is used, but it is a fairly common way to phrase it among internet companies.
  - zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 13y ago
    I think you overlooked that they violated the social contract first by requiring you to submit to surveillance, so all I am doing is to protect me from their abuse.
    - jbigelow76 13y ago
      The "social contract" now includes wifi?