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'I'm going to delete an email because it has a CV in an editable format it in' 'Ask me to telnet into your CV or solve an algorithm that prints your CV...' --

by mkautzm 13y ago

'I'm going to delete an email because it has a CV in an editable format it in' 'Ask me to telnet into your CV or solve an algorithm that prints your CV...' -- If everyone had the ability to read minds and know how a given employer wants to see their resume/CV, then a 'standard format' wouldn't be necessary. But because the powers of long-range telepathy have evaded us so far, we end up agreeing as a society that certain formats are acceptable. It's not that we personally like them, but it's 'safe'. It's considered normal and there is kind of an unspoken agreement between everyone that a .doc or .docx file is acceptable. If you ask 99% of employers to telnet into your CV, they are probably going to tell you to kindly fuck off, and so you don't. -- 'They’re going to complain about overtime' The idea that you don't want to hire people who are motivated strictly by a paycheck is fine, but this attitude right here breeds the shitty culture in software development we have today, where 60, 70, 80+ work weeks are considered normal and 'if you don't like it, leave'. It's poisonous to an entire industry. People have lives -- I like to volunteer at my local zoo and write music in my free time. If I had a job that just expected dozens of overtime hours every week because 'reasons', then I'm not taking it. -- In the real world, people do want jobs. People do want jobs they love, and they are willing to give up a lot for jobs they love, and you might be providing them with one, but you need to come down to earth and realize that this isn't the only job they will ever apply for and expecting to be super impressed by the way they apply for the job is unrealistic, unfair, and I dare say, 'out of touch'. These people also have lives outside of work. Hobbies, family, friends and such take time and if you are hiring people that are willing to give up all of that in the name of work, I'd be really concerned for them.

liamgooding 13y ago
First mkautzm , thanks for the comments on this. Honestly, I'm glad to see debate as it allows me to really challenge how I feel about this beyond a short blog post. Just want to feedback on a few points: >It's considered normal and there is kind of an unspoken agreement between everyone that a .doc or .docx file is acceptable. I disagree. Maybe in a corporate world, applying for the paper distribution business in town or the IT support department at the accountancy firm up the road. But in the startup community, don't hackers all kinda share a sense of "innovation"? >If you ask 99% of employers to telnet into your CV, they are probably going to tell you to kindly fuck off, and so you don't. Wouldn't you want to work for that 1% who didn't? >'They’re going to complain about overtime' Don't quote out of context. There's an unlimited vacation policy at Trak.io.... take all the time out you want and need. But yeah, when the AMS MongoDB goes down and Digital Ocean aren;t allowing new droplet provisioning in AMS, I expect all hands on deck while we spin up on AWS. Because we all care about the product, our customers uptime, their data >In the real world, people do want jobs. People do want jobs they love, and they are willing to give up a lot for jobs they love, and you might be providing them with one, but you need to come down to earth and realize that this isn't the only job they will ever apply for and expecting to be super impressed by the way they apply for the job is unrealistic, unfair, and I dare say, 'out of touch'. These people also have lives outside of work. Hobbies, family, friends and such take time and if you are hiring people that are willing to give up all of that in the name of work, I'd be really concerned for them. What can I say.... I've learnt that when you're building an early team, you need a small team of amazing people because the overhead of a few OK people doesn;t even come close to the output of one amazing, passionate person. I'd happily piss off 99 applicants to find no.100 who's amazing and who actually put at least the same amount of time putting an application together as I'll spend researching him/her online :-)

by mkautzm 13y ago

liamgooding 13y ago

First mkautzm , thanks for the comments on this. Honestly, I'm glad to see debate as it allows me to really challenge how I feel about this beyond a short blog post. Just want to feedback on a few points: >It's considered normal and there is kind of an unspoken agreement between everyone that a .doc or .docx file is acceptable. I disagree. Maybe in a corporate world, applying for the paper distribution business in town or the IT support department at the accountancy firm up the road. But in the startup community, don't hackers all kinda share a sense of "innovation"? >If you ask 99% of employers to telnet into your CV, they are probably going to tell you to kindly fuck off, and so you don't. Wouldn't you want to work for that 1% who didn't? >'They’re going to complain about overtime' Don't quote out of context. There's an unlimited vacation policy at Trak.io.... take all the time out you want and need. But yeah, when the AMS MongoDB goes down and Digital Ocean aren;t allowing new droplet provisioning in AMS, I expect all hands on deck while we spin up on AWS. Because we all care about the product, our customers uptime, their data >In the real world, people do want jobs. People do want jobs they love, and they are willing to give up a lot for jobs they love, and you might be providing them with one, but you need to come down to earth and realize that this isn't the only job they will ever apply for and expecting to be super impressed by the way they apply for the job is unrealistic, unfair, and I dare say, 'out of touch'. These people also have lives outside of work. Hobbies, family, friends and such take time and if you are hiring people that are willing to give up all of that in the name of work, I'd be really concerned for them. What can I say.... I've learnt that when you're building an early team, you need a small team of amazing people because the overhead of a few OK people doesn;t even come close to the output of one amazing, passionate person. I'd happily piss off 99 applicants to find no.100 who's amazing and who actually put at least the same amount of time putting an application together as I'll spend researching him/her online :-)