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drdaeman 13y ago
"Can't imagine/understand" is a figure of speech, not literal statement to be taken by its exact meaning. Personally, I can imagine how someone could live without $conceptname at all. It's as trivial as just never introducing that concept to to the extent they learn it. Or, maybe, that someone knows the concept but unable to use it due to insuperable force, like a lack of necessary tools for target platform(s) or corporate standard dictating what's permitted and what's not. The point is, this is an unpleasant imagination one don't want to accept. Or something like that. But this is really getting off-topic...
- dsymonds 13y ago
  I'm fully aware that it's a figure of speech. I'm calling out the hyperbole because it doesn't enlighten, and lacks self-reflection. A much more useful comment would have been to describe how crucial $concept is to his programming practice, and how he tried working without $concept but found it a dreadful experience because of $x, $y and $z.
  - DanWaterworth 13y ago
    Thanks for the feedback, I was being quite dismissive. In this case, at least to me, it seems quite clear that parametric polymorphism would be a win - that the addition of parametric polymorphism would allow the library to be expressed and used in a more eloquent manner. The purpose of my comment was to draw attention to this.
  - coldtea 13y ago
    >A much more useful comment would have been to describe how crucial $concept is to his programming practice, and how he tried working without $concept but found it a dreadful experience because of $x, $y and $z. Why, does anyone needs convincing of how useful Generics are? It's 2014 already.
    - _ak 13y ago
      Well, the Go team certainly doesn't need convincing, they know how useful generics are, but you know... http://research.swtch.com/generic http://research.swtch.com/generic

drdaeman 13y ago

"Can't imagine/understand" is a figure of speech, not literal statement to be taken by its exact meaning. Personally, I can imagine how someone could live without $conceptname at all. It's as trivial as just never introducing that concept to to the extent they learn it. Or, maybe, that someone knows the concept but unable to use it due to insuperable force, like a lack of necessary tools for target platform(s) or corporate standard dictating what's permitted and what's not. The point is, this is an unpleasant imagination one don't want to accept. Or something like that. But this is really getting off-topic...

dsymonds 13y ago
I'm fully aware that it's a figure of speech. I'm calling out the hyperbole because it doesn't enlighten, and lacks self-reflection. A much more useful comment would have been to describe how crucial $concept is to his programming practice, and how he tried working without $concept but found it a dreadful experience because of $x, $y and $z.
- DanWaterworth 13y ago
  Thanks for the feedback, I was being quite dismissive. In this case, at least to me, it seems quite clear that parametric polymorphism would be a win - that the addition of parametric polymorphism would allow the library to be expressed and used in a more eloquent manner. The purpose of my comment was to draw attention to this.
- coldtea 13y ago
  >A much more useful comment would have been to describe how crucial $concept is to his programming practice, and how he tried working without $concept but found it a dreadful experience because of $x, $y and $z. Why, does anyone needs convincing of how useful Generics are? It's 2014 already.
  - _ak 13y ago
    Well, the Go team certainly doesn't need convincing, they know how useful generics are, but you know... http://research.swtch.com/generic http://research.swtch.com/generic