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Fewer than ~22% are sticking with python 3. Admittedly that's more than 5%, but I'd hardly call it a blazing success story, when 60% of people have tried it. S

Fewer than ~22% are sticking with python 3. Admittedly that's more than 5%, but I'd hardly call it a blazing success story, when 60% of people have tried it. So, 22% of 60% of people all up are sticking with python 3. 13%. Woo...

jcater 13y ago
Where do you come up with 22% of 60% as sticking with it? The 22% I assume came from the question of which do you program in most. I program in Python 2 most currently too because of legacy projects. But I also do a lot in Python 3 as well, just not "most".
drdeadringer 13y ago
Python 3 meets my needs just fine. However, I do tend to live in the future.
the_mitsuhiko 13y ago
Less than 4% of pypi download stats are Python 3, so i doubt the results of this survey are representative.
- janzer 13y ago
  I'm wondering where that number comes from? I've seen this stat a few times recently but don't know where it came from. Just doing a quick perusal of the top 5 projects listed at http://pypi-ranking.info/alltime http://pypi-ranking.info/alltime 1 (boto) does not support 3.x 3 (distribute, zc.buildout and pip) only distribute non-version dependent files leaving just 1 (lxml) with version dependent installers listed at all and it is only for the windows installers. Drilling down into lxml, roughly 95% of its downloads are the version agnostic .tar.gz file. Also the version dependent installers do not include a 3.3 version but only 3.2 for python3. But even with only an installer for a old version of python3 available it still is >8% of version dependent downloads.
  - shadowmint 13y ago
    I suppose it was derived somehow from https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pypstats https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pypstats As a number of people have pointed out though, there's no new data since May 2013, no idea why (https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/issue/33/package-stats-no-longer-updated https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/issue/33/package-stats-no-lo...), so the the '4%' number is probably out of date anyway.
cjo 13y ago
> Do you have dependencies keeping you on 2.x? > Yes: 61.46% > No: 38.54% I know that's why I returned to 2 after trying 3. For example BeautifulSoup (HTML parsing/scraping) has only supported Python 3 since October '13. There was nothing wrong with 3, it was just dependency issues. Plus, when 2.7 was released it was done with a promise of ~6 years of support[0] to aid in the transition to 3.x. I think the definition of success here needs to take that into account. [0] - https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-May/099971.html https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-May/099971...

jcater 13y ago

Where do you come up with 22% of 60% as sticking with it? The 22% I assume came from the question of which do you program in most. I program in Python 2 most currently too because of legacy projects. But I also do a lot in Python 3 as well, just not "most".

drdeadringer 13y ago

Python 3 meets my needs just fine. However, I do tend to live in the future.

the_mitsuhiko 13y ago

Less than 4% of pypi download stats are Python 3, so i doubt the results of this survey are representative.

janzer 13y ago
I'm wondering where that number comes from? I've seen this stat a few times recently but don't know where it came from. Just doing a quick perusal of the top 5 projects listed at http://pypi-ranking.info/alltime http://pypi-ranking.info/alltime 1 (boto) does not support 3.x 3 (distribute, zc.buildout and pip) only distribute non-version dependent files leaving just 1 (lxml) with version dependent installers listed at all and it is only for the windows installers. Drilling down into lxml, roughly 95% of its downloads are the version agnostic .tar.gz file. Also the version dependent installers do not include a 3.3 version but only 3.2 for python3. But even with only an installer for a old version of python3 available it still is >8% of version dependent downloads.
- shadowmint 13y ago
  I suppose it was derived somehow from https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pypstats https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pypstats As a number of people have pointed out though, there's no new data since May 2013, no idea why (https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/issue/33/package-stats-no-longer-updated https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/issue/33/package-stats-no-lo...), so the the '4%' number is probably out of date anyway.

cjo 13y ago

> Do you have dependencies keeping you on 2.x? > Yes: 61.46% > No: 38.54% I know that's why I returned to 2 after trying 3. For example BeautifulSoup (HTML parsing/scraping) has only supported Python 3 since October '13. There was nothing wrong with 3, it was just dependency issues. Plus, when 2.7 was released it was done with a promise of ~6 years of support[0] to aid in the transition to 3.x. I think the definition of success here needs to take that into account. [0] - https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-May/099971.html https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-May/099971...