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Thanks for your data point. But I presume this was a small to medium sized company? At Big Co. HR is a faceless organization and I'm curious if people have succ

by tostitos1979 13y ago

Thanks for your data point. But I presume this was a small to medium sized company? At Big Co. HR is a faceless organization and I'm curious if people have succeeded negotiating with this beast? I'm also curious: did you negotiate this after they offered you a job? It seems frustrating to get the job first and then turn it down because it never met your requirements? Is it reasonable to ask a potential employer about their own-time policy during the interview phase?

dredmorbius 13y ago
I've pushed back on contract terms with a large company that had included a non-compete clause not enforceable locally. Turns out they had an alternate contract which met local statute, and had used it in previous hires / mergers. Still makes me itchy to sign such terms. When Marissa Meyer was hired by Yahoo, I found it interesting that her employment contract included some pretty familiar language: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1011006/000119312512307595/d384719dex101.htm https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1011006/000119312512...
- danielweber 13y ago
  In the fictional novel "Lost Boys" (the author's name tends to start flamewars on HN so I'm not mentioning it), a software developer travels across the country with his family to a new job and is presented with a horrible IP contract. He sweats and is nervous and anxious about it all weekend, and on Monday he tells his boss he won't sign it. The boss shrugs and pulls an alternate contract out of a drawer and hands it to the developer. They give the first contract to people who won't bother reading it, and the second (read: "fair") contract to anyone who has an issue with the first.
  - dredmorbius 13y ago
    Interesting. Yeah, some good books, but pity about the person.