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Filters are not effectively applied by the majority of parents who feel unmatched to the task of implementing safe/clean internet for their children. These par

by Ntrails 13y ago

Filters are not effectively applied by the majority of parents who feel unmatched to the task of implementing safe/clean internet for their children. These parents want more help doing so, they don't want to have to learn more/new technology. That is the perceived issue this was designed to resolve. You may think it's an abomination, many think that children being able to access any manner of pornography by default is more abominable. And if, as I interpret what you say, you believe that children are better off having access to everything online in order to feel trusted and respected? Well I disagree pretty damned strongly. That's ok, but there isn't really a middle ground.

vidarh 13y ago
> These parents want more help doing so If that was the case, why have these ISPs not previously seen a business case in offering a "family friendly" account providing this as a service? Instead the major ISPs were strong-armed and threatened with legislation if they didn't put something together.
- mattlutze 13y ago
  ISPs have been historically strong-armed into providing as close to Net Neutrality as possible. This obviously flies in the face of that, and there would be a disincentive to implementing such a service if not for the weight of the government behind them.
- DanBC 13y ago
  Some of them were offering net filtering as a service, whether by offering a years free software or some net panel interface.
bambax 13y ago
> And if, as I interpret what you say, you believe that children are better off having access to everything online in order to feel trusted and respected? Well I disagree pretty damned strongly. You're entitled to your opinion regarding your own kids. You're not entitled to an opinion regarding my kids or how I raise them. Well, you may have an opinion about my family, but don't expect me to respect it or even take the time to discuss it.
voyou 13y ago
"These parents want more help doing so" There are parents who feel so strongly about filtering their children's access to the internet they were willing to put pressure on politicians to strongarm ISPs into implementing opt-in filters, but aren't willing to click the big "parental controls" button that was already on their ISP's website? That sounds incredibly unlikely.

by Ntrails 13y ago

vidarh 13y ago

> These parents want more help doing so If that was the case, why have these ISPs not previously seen a business case in offering a "family friendly" account providing this as a service? Instead the major ISPs were strong-armed and threatened with legislation if they didn't put something together.

mattlutze 13y ago
ISPs have been historically strong-armed into providing as close to Net Neutrality as possible. This obviously flies in the face of that, and there would be a disincentive to implementing such a service if not for the weight of the government behind them.
DanBC 13y ago
Some of them were offering net filtering as a service, whether by offering a years free software or some net panel interface.

bambax 13y ago

> And if, as I interpret what you say, you believe that children are better off having access to everything online in order to feel trusted and respected? Well I disagree pretty damned strongly. You're entitled to your opinion regarding your own kids. You're not entitled to an opinion regarding my kids or how I raise them. Well, you may have an opinion about my family, but don't expect me to respect it or even take the time to discuss it.

voyou 13y ago

"These parents want more help doing so" There are parents who feel so strongly about filtering their children's access to the internet they were willing to put pressure on politicians to strongarm ISPs into implementing opt-in filters, but aren't willing to click the big "parental controls" button that was already on their ISP's website? That sounds incredibly unlikely.