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Did you notice any long term (lasting) effects after those four months? Also, any particular reason you stopped? Thanks.

by sn0v 13y ago

stickydink 13y ago
After I stopped, and started eating regularly again, I found nothing different at all. One of the side effects, is that you're really susceptible to alcohol. One beer, and I'd be really feeling it. Whereas before, I could drink 3 without really noticing. After I stopped, my tolerance was still pretty low, though it's fine now. I don't know if the low tolerance afterwards could be the diet specifically, or just whether I'd not really drank in 4 months. I stopped because it was just too awkward. Living with my girlfriend, it was annoying that we had to cook separately (she only believes in low calorie, zombie cardio 5 days a week). We could only go out to dinner at certain places, which got a bit tedious. And to be honest, I'd done pretty well, and was back to the sort of weight I wanted to be at. The toss up between the cost/awkwardness, and the amount of weight I still had to lose, it wasn't worth the hassle. Though, if I ever need to lose weight again (hopefully never), I wouldn't even dream of anything else.
- s_husso 13y ago
  > One of the side effects, is that you're really susceptible to alcohol. One beer, and I'd be really feeling it. Whereas before, I could drink 3 without really noticing. After I stopped, my tolerance was still pretty low, though it's fine now. I don't know if the low tolerance afterwards could be the diet specifically, or just whether I'd not really drank in 4 months. After going Keto/IF my alcohol tolerance has gone through the roofs to a point that I really don't want to get wasted anymore (not that I did it that often). Around 10 beers used to get me in a great buzz, but now after a 0.7 litre bottle of whisky I could still easily get into a bar and continue drinking. But luckily there is something going in the back of your head, that "maybe this is way too much already, lets call it a day". And top of that, the day after, I seem to have no hangover at all. Now a days, if I go out with friends I usually take one or two servings of some good quality whisky and leave it at that. For the background I'm currently standing at 115kg
AltanS 13y ago
Maybe I can answer this question, been on a ketogenic diet for over a year now. As mentioned above there is an adaptation period to the diet that can take up to 4 weeks. During that time symptoms can be flu like, this is caused by an initial hormonal change due to low blood glucose levels and in return a low and stable insulin level. Because of this the kidney excretes more sodium, potassium and water, leading to low blood pressure. This can be prevented by supplementing broth, or adding more salt to servings, for as long as the symptoms occur. Once this phase is over you get to experience the real benefits of a ketogenic diet, constant energy levels throughout the day, controllable hunger, better sleep, elevated HGH and more. It really sounds too good to be true I guess, which is why a lot of people dismiss it right away. I'd encourage anyone to give it a try, at least 4 weeks however to ensure adaptation.
- notdrunkatall 13y ago
  HGH? Human Growth Hormone? Just curious, what benefit does this provide?
  - AltanS 13y ago
    From the wikipedia page: "In addition to increasing height in children and adolescents, growth hormone has many other effects on the body: - Increases calcium retention, and strengthens and increases the mineralization of bone - Increases muscle mass through sarcomere hypertrophy - Promotes lipolysis - Increases protein synthesis - Stimulates the growth of all internal organs excluding the brain - Plays a role in homeostasis - Reduces liver uptake of glucose - Promotes gluconeogenesis in the liver - Contributes to the maintenance and function of pancreatic islets - Stimulates the immune system"
- ovi256 13y ago
  This is pretty much the "reset fast" that is advocated by the "Engineering the Alpha" book.
dharmach 13y ago
The book "The Endurance: Shackleton's Legendary Antarctic Expedition" mentioned about the group not able to eat carbohydrate for months. They had only animal products available to survive. They complained about lack of stamina and each physical tasks taking a lot longer to complete.
- Robin_Message 13y ago
  They were stuck on an Antarctic ice floe for 497 days, and you think it was the lack of carbs that reduced their stamina? What about the debilitating cold, the crushing expectation of a lonely death, or the general ice-induced boredom?

Did you notice any long term (lasting) effects after those four months? Also, any particular reason you stopped? Thanks.

by sn0v 13y ago

Did you notice any long term (lasting) effects after those four months? Also, any particular reason you stopped? Thanks.

stickydink 13y ago

After I stopped, and started eating regularly again, I found nothing different at all. One of the side effects, is that you're really susceptible to alcohol. One beer, and I'd be really feeling it. Whereas before, I could drink 3 without really noticing. After I stopped, my tolerance was still pretty low, though it's fine now. I don't know if the low tolerance afterwards could be the diet specifically, or just whether I'd not really drank in 4 months. I stopped because it was just too awkward. Living with my girlfriend, it was annoying that we had to cook separately (she only believes in low calorie, zombie cardio 5 days a week). We could only go out to dinner at certain places, which got a bit tedious. And to be honest, I'd done pretty well, and was back to the sort of weight I wanted to be at. The toss up between the cost/awkwardness, and the amount of weight I still had to lose, it wasn't worth the hassle. Though, if I ever need to lose weight again (hopefully never), I wouldn't even dream of anything else.

s_husso 13y ago
> One of the side effects, is that you're really susceptible to alcohol. One beer, and I'd be really feeling it. Whereas before, I could drink 3 without really noticing. After I stopped, my tolerance was still pretty low, though it's fine now. I don't know if the low tolerance afterwards could be the diet specifically, or just whether I'd not really drank in 4 months. After going Keto/IF my alcohol tolerance has gone through the roofs to a point that I really don't want to get wasted anymore (not that I did it that often). Around 10 beers used to get me in a great buzz, but now after a 0.7 litre bottle of whisky I could still easily get into a bar and continue drinking. But luckily there is something going in the back of your head, that "maybe this is way too much already, lets call it a day". And top of that, the day after, I seem to have no hangover at all. Now a days, if I go out with friends I usually take one or two servings of some good quality whisky and leave it at that. For the background I'm currently standing at 115kg

AltanS 13y ago

Maybe I can answer this question, been on a ketogenic diet for over a year now. As mentioned above there is an adaptation period to the diet that can take up to 4 weeks. During that time symptoms can be flu like, this is caused by an initial hormonal change due to low blood glucose levels and in return a low and stable insulin level. Because of this the kidney excretes more sodium, potassium and water, leading to low blood pressure. This can be prevented by supplementing broth, or adding more salt to servings, for as long as the symptoms occur. Once this phase is over you get to experience the real benefits of a ketogenic diet, constant energy levels throughout the day, controllable hunger, better sleep, elevated HGH and more. It really sounds too good to be true I guess, which is why a lot of people dismiss it right away. I'd encourage anyone to give it a try, at least 4 weeks however to ensure adaptation.

notdrunkatall 13y ago
HGH? Human Growth Hormone? Just curious, what benefit does this provide?
- AltanS 13y ago
  From the wikipedia page: "In addition to increasing height in children and adolescents, growth hormone has many other effects on the body: - Increases calcium retention, and strengthens and increases the mineralization of bone - Increases muscle mass through sarcomere hypertrophy - Promotes lipolysis - Increases protein synthesis - Stimulates the growth of all internal organs excluding the brain - Plays a role in homeostasis - Reduces liver uptake of glucose - Promotes gluconeogenesis in the liver - Contributes to the maintenance and function of pancreatic islets - Stimulates the immune system"
ovi256 13y ago
This is pretty much the "reset fast" that is advocated by the "Engineering the Alpha" book.

dharmach 13y ago

The book "The Endurance: Shackleton's Legendary Antarctic Expedition" mentioned about the group not able to eat carbohydrate for months. They had only animal products available to survive. They complained about lack of stamina and each physical tasks taking a lot longer to complete.

Robin_Message 13y ago
They were stuck on an Antarctic ice floe for 497 days, and you think it was the lack of carbs that reduced their stamina? What about the debilitating cold, the crushing expectation of a lonely death, or the general ice-induced boredom?