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Marx also treated capital as a way to control the means of production. One could argue that with automation, especially software automation, controlling the mea
by Nimi 13y ago
Marx also treated capital as a way to control the means of production. One could argue that with automation, especially software automation, controlling the means of production is possible without a significant amount of capital.
Seems to me we're already seeing the natural progression you described in your last paragraph - basic income initiatives. This really looks to me like the anti-segregation movement from the 60s - a radical idea at the time, then 50 years later people don't understand how it was possible to have a society without it.
- Tloewald 13y agoYou may be right. Certainly the gay rights movement has succeeded beyond my wildest hopes or expectations during a period of generally right-wing dominance amd stalemate (the democrats have only had two years to pass legislation since 2000), and now it looks like the war on drugs might collapse. We seem to be enjoying one or two tectonic shifts in politics every decade right now. Amazing times.
- Nimi 13y agoI'm not from the U.S., so as an outsider it seems to me socialism, which is the prominent political stance in some parts of Europe and a respectable opposition stance in others, was/is constantly demonized there, similarly to how gay people were demonized decades ago ("recruiting" young children etc.). So a not-unreasonable guess as to "what's next" might be socialism, regardless of whether we're post-scarcity or not, and regardless of the success of basic income initiatives. Maybe ACA will be considered the first sign 50 years from now...