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Interesting article. I'm just a little disappointed that they distinguished glucose and fructose early on then went on to using the ambiguous 'sugar'. It sounde

by elnate 13y ago

Interesting article. I'm just a little disappointed that they distinguished glucose and fructose early on then went on to using the ambiguous 'sugar'. It sounded like a lot of this only applies to the fructose when they said glucose is "not that much fun".

penguindev 13y ago
Agreed, they let glucose off the hook way, way too easily. If you are eating no 'sweet' sugar yet addicted to pretzels, pizza, bagels, and cereal with low fat milk - and thinking you're healthy because it's 'whole grain', like I was over a year ago, you may be killing yourself. Your body doesn't need to ingest any carbs at all to survive, only protein and fat are required, and you can tolerate a lot more energy from fat than protein. I count myself among the 33%-50% of the population that is carb intolerant and should avoid carbs at all cost. I've been on a wheat free, LCHF, close to ketogenic diet^H^H^Hlifestyle for a year and have been astounded at how well it works. Sure, some people can tolerate low fat high carb diets even as they get older. But they're making a lot of other people sick by pushing those diets on us.
- a8da6b0c91d 13y ago
  High fat diets boost endotoxin absorption and catecholamines. It's also very difficult to eat high fat without getting too much unsaturated fat, which accumulates over time causing inflammation and aging. High protein diets boost catecholamines. The long standing conventional wisdom that you want to be a sugar/carb burner is correct. Your cells function best on a steadily available supply of glucose backed with plenty of glycogen. Fructose is protective against stress, so a decent amount of sucrose is desirable.
  - rickdale 13y ago
    Actually science will challenge your beliefs on carbs. I won't go medical journal on you, but this guy will, referring to the doctor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2c2Oq-Pi2o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2c2Oq-Pi2o
  - logfromblammo 13y ago
    It's not difficult. Just buy a 5 gallon bucket of virgin coconut oil. The medium-chain saturated fats in coconut oil are very friendly to your body.
    - a8da6b0c91d 13y ago
      Have fun forcing down coconut oil to get enough calories. Wouldn't you enjoy the taste and convenience of a glass of grape juice?
      - logfromblammo 13y ago
        Tongue says yes. Liver says no. Brain considers both opinions, and sides with liver.
      - mixmastamyk 13y ago
        I slather my salads with olive oil. Very tasty and doc says my numbers are great.
- logfromblammo 13y ago
  I devised for myself a no-sugar "dog food" recipe to use for all breakfasts and lunches for the rest of my life, and dinners when what the family eats is not suitable. Contrasting with my diet before, there is a noteworthy decrease in the amount of time I spend thinking about food now. Before, I would have cravings and seek out food when I wasn't really hungry. Now, when I get hungry, I eat until I am no longer hungry, then stop. Afterward, I'm not hungry and not thinking at all about food for at least the next 6-12 hours. The hardest part is coordinating social meal schedules with people who now seem to be either eating or talking about food almost constantly. Without sugar, I don't feel deprived or lacking one bit. And since my "dog food" is mainly comprised of three commodity food ingredients, it's very easy on the budget, too. I have noticed myself becoming more smug, though, so I have to be careful not to judge other people for their food choices.
  - anon4 13y ago
    That sounds interesting. Can you share the recipe and/or the method you used to derive it?
    - logfromblammo 13y ago
      In order of decreasing mass: eggs, chia seed, coconut oil, diatomaceous earth, Azomite, KCl, NaCl, pulverized vitamin pills, MgSO4, borax It may still need a tiny bit of KI, methylsilanetriol, and betaine, but those are a bit harder to obtain. I tried to work out the ratios such that a 2200 kcal portion would come in above the minimum requirement and below the tolerable upper limit for all nutrients, where those amounts are known. Since commercial vitamin pills usually go on the USRDA values, it isn't exactly how I want it, but I have been using the color imparted to my urine by the massive excess of some of the B vitamins to determine if I need to drink more water or not. I prepare the non-egg ingredients separately, and combine them before cooking. The result is similar to scrambled eggs, except somehow manages to have less flavor than eggs alone. Seasoning is essential for palatibility. Capsaicin and onion powder seem to work best.
    - mixmastamyk 13y ago
      Sounds like soylent. Here's another recipe. Unsweetened soy/almond milk, large scoop of sugar-free whey protein powder with vitamins. One banana, and/or other fruit/veggies, ground flaxseed for fiber.
wmil 13y ago
Actually they're being quite clear and referring to sucrose (table sugar) the whole time.
- elnate 13y ago
  Which is a combination of glucose and fructose.

by elnate 13y ago

penguindev 13y ago

Agreed, they let glucose off the hook way, way too easily. If you are eating no 'sweet' sugar yet addicted to pretzels, pizza, bagels, and cereal with low fat milk - and thinking you're healthy because it's 'whole grain', like I was over a year ago, you may be killing yourself. Your body doesn't need to ingest any carbs at all to survive, only protein and fat are required, and you can tolerate a lot more energy from fat than protein. I count myself among the 33%-50% of the population that is carb intolerant and should avoid carbs at all cost. I've been on a wheat free, LCHF, close to ketogenic diet^H^H^Hlifestyle for a year and have been astounded at how well it works. Sure, some people can tolerate low fat high carb diets even as they get older. But they're making a lot of other people sick by pushing those diets on us.

a8da6b0c91d 13y ago
High fat diets boost endotoxin absorption and catecholamines. It's also very difficult to eat high fat without getting too much unsaturated fat, which accumulates over time causing inflammation and aging. High protein diets boost catecholamines. The long standing conventional wisdom that you want to be a sugar/carb burner is correct. Your cells function best on a steadily available supply of glucose backed with plenty of glycogen. Fructose is protective against stress, so a decent amount of sucrose is desirable.
- rickdale 13y ago
  Actually science will challenge your beliefs on carbs. I won't go medical journal on you, but this guy will, referring to the doctor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2c2Oq-Pi2o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2c2Oq-Pi2o
- logfromblammo 13y ago
  It's not difficult. Just buy a 5 gallon bucket of virgin coconut oil. The medium-chain saturated fats in coconut oil are very friendly to your body.
  - a8da6b0c91d 13y ago
    Have fun forcing down coconut oil to get enough calories. Wouldn't you enjoy the taste and convenience of a glass of grape juice?
    - logfromblammo 13y ago
      Tongue says yes. Liver says no. Brain considers both opinions, and sides with liver.
    - mixmastamyk 13y ago
      I slather my salads with olive oil. Very tasty and doc says my numbers are great.
logfromblammo 13y ago
I devised for myself a no-sugar "dog food" recipe to use for all breakfasts and lunches for the rest of my life, and dinners when what the family eats is not suitable. Contrasting with my diet before, there is a noteworthy decrease in the amount of time I spend thinking about food now. Before, I would have cravings and seek out food when I wasn't really hungry. Now, when I get hungry, I eat until I am no longer hungry, then stop. Afterward, I'm not hungry and not thinking at all about food for at least the next 6-12 hours. The hardest part is coordinating social meal schedules with people who now seem to be either eating or talking about food almost constantly. Without sugar, I don't feel deprived or lacking one bit. And since my "dog food" is mainly comprised of three commodity food ingredients, it's very easy on the budget, too. I have noticed myself becoming more smug, though, so I have to be careful not to judge other people for their food choices.
- anon4 13y ago
  That sounds interesting. Can you share the recipe and/or the method you used to derive it?
  - logfromblammo 13y ago
    In order of decreasing mass: eggs, chia seed, coconut oil, diatomaceous earth, Azomite, KCl, NaCl, pulverized vitamin pills, MgSO4, borax It may still need a tiny bit of KI, methylsilanetriol, and betaine, but those are a bit harder to obtain. I tried to work out the ratios such that a 2200 kcal portion would come in above the minimum requirement and below the tolerable upper limit for all nutrients, where those amounts are known. Since commercial vitamin pills usually go on the USRDA values, it isn't exactly how I want it, but I have been using the color imparted to my urine by the massive excess of some of the B vitamins to determine if I need to drink more water or not. I prepare the non-egg ingredients separately, and combine them before cooking. The result is similar to scrambled eggs, except somehow manages to have less flavor than eggs alone. Seasoning is essential for palatibility. Capsaicin and onion powder seem to work best.
  - mixmastamyk 13y ago
    Sounds like soylent. Here's another recipe. Unsweetened soy/almond milk, large scoop of sugar-free whey protein powder with vitamins. One banana, and/or other fruit/veggies, ground flaxseed for fiber.

wmil 13y ago

Actually they're being quite clear and referring to sucrose (table sugar) the whole time.

elnate 13y ago
Which is a combination of glucose and fructose.