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Obvious caveats: -it is Jolla's home market of Finland -Finland is a small market where slight changes in absolute sales volume can show significant changes

Obvious caveats: -it is Jolla's home market of Finland -Finland is a small market where slight changes in absolute sales volume can show significant changes -Jolla is satisfying pent-up demand for their phone -it is on one carrier in Finland (the only one where Jolla is offered) -iPhone aggregate demand is split into 2 whereas there is only 1 Jolla model But hey, a win is a win...and it is certainly better than, say, failing to outsell the iPhone on this one carrier in one country And the Jolla also outsold high-end Nokias (only the low-end Lumia 520 outsold the Jolla)

sentenza 13y ago
True, but I personally can say that I'm very happy to hear this, as I've been hoping for a serious contender besides Android and IOS. I would like to have a good phone, with a non-dead app ecosystem that is sold to me by a phone vendor as a stand-alone product without a lifestyle template/belief system attached to it. Until this news, Jolla was an "also ran" in my perception, now they are a prime contender for my next smartphone. (Might also be tempted by an upper-tier Firefox OS phone, if that ever happens.) Maybe, just maybe, there will come a time when we have a major smartphone company in Europe. I'm all for it.
- sirkneeland 13y ago
  "Maybe, just maybe, there will come a time when we have a major smartphone company in Europe again. I'm all for it." (FTFY :) Ericsson pioneered with the R380, Symbian was a decent smartphone OS for its day, and Nokia was Nokia) I also want Europe to have a major smartphone company, and I say that as an overtly (and possibly overly) patriotic American. Competition and choice are good things. Duopolies are usually not good.
- Jhsto 13y ago
  About the Firefox OS, you could just flash a Nexus phone and have it run on that.
- mdpane 13y ago
  "True, but I personally can say that I'm very happy to hear this, as I've been hoping for a serious contender besides Android and IOS." Give it a couple years. Samsung's the biggest manufacturer of Android devices and they've been working on Tizen[0] to curtail their dependency on Google. [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen
- s_husso 13y ago
  I agree, I think we really need someone who will try to make something new and gain small % of the markets so that ios/android will also have to start innovating something cool again. That said, I've personally been burned before by the n900 and N9 which were pretty much "dead on arrival", so I'm a bit reluctant to just buy the Jolla device. Even though the company behind the device is totally different. I think I'll have to give my iphone5 to my mom and in return take her N9 and install the Sailfish OS to it, just to get the feel of the OS in daily use.
untog 13y ago
Jolla is satisfying pent-up demand for their phone That's the biggest one, IMO. Launch numbers are largely meaningless, let's see how it's doing in two months, let alone six month's time.
Ironballs 13y ago
The phone isn't carrier locked, you can buy it online and then put any SIM inside it.
jorde 13y ago
The sales number that the article is quoting are for December. I'm not completely sure when Jolla phones started shipping but I think it was early December so this might very well include all the pre-ordered phones.
Someone 13y ago
Also: I expect Apple.fi sells many more iPhones in Finland than Jolla.com sells Jollas. But it _is_ good that they can boast about this. Unfortunately, they will need all the good press they can get. It will be a hard fight to survive.
valgaze 13y ago
Angry Birds soda for a time was said to outpace Coke & Pepsi in Finland too: http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2012/11/21/rovio-angry-birds-soda-is-the-best-selling-drink-in-finland-ahead-of-coke-and-pepsi/ http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2012/11/21/rovio-angry-bird...
xmus 13y ago
am back, remember me (you people put my Karma to -15): THIS is NOT news - home town, a population less than 6Million - hey you outsold iPhone - CONGRATULATIONS! god forbid you outsell iPhone ANYWHERE else! - but hey i APPLAUD Finland using "home grown" phone - BUT comparing it to iPhone - comeon' - you're like coca-cola telling people how much sugar is in a bottle of soda! [they just DON'T tell you the WHOLE story] and down goes my Karma! :)

sentenza 13y ago

True, but I personally can say that I'm very happy to hear this, as I've been hoping for a serious contender besides Android and IOS. I would like to have a good phone, with a non-dead app ecosystem that is sold to me by a phone vendor as a stand-alone product without a lifestyle template/belief system attached to it. Until this news, Jolla was an "also ran" in my perception, now they are a prime contender for my next smartphone. (Might also be tempted by an upper-tier Firefox OS phone, if that ever happens.) Maybe, just maybe, there will come a time when we have a major smartphone company in Europe. I'm all for it.

sirkneeland 13y ago
"Maybe, just maybe, there will come a time when we have a major smartphone company in Europe again. I'm all for it." (FTFY :) Ericsson pioneered with the R380, Symbian was a decent smartphone OS for its day, and Nokia was Nokia) I also want Europe to have a major smartphone company, and I say that as an overtly (and possibly overly) patriotic American. Competition and choice are good things. Duopolies are usually not good.
Jhsto 13y ago
About the Firefox OS, you could just flash a Nexus phone and have it run on that.
mdpane 13y ago
"True, but I personally can say that I'm very happy to hear this, as I've been hoping for a serious contender besides Android and IOS." Give it a couple years. Samsung's the biggest manufacturer of Android devices and they've been working on Tizen[0] to curtail their dependency on Google. [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen
s_husso 13y ago
I agree, I think we really need someone who will try to make something new and gain small % of the markets so that ios/android will also have to start innovating something cool again. That said, I've personally been burned before by the n900 and N9 which were pretty much "dead on arrival", so I'm a bit reluctant to just buy the Jolla device. Even though the company behind the device is totally different. I think I'll have to give my iphone5 to my mom and in return take her N9 and install the Sailfish OS to it, just to get the feel of the OS in daily use.

untog 13y ago

Jolla is satisfying pent-up demand for their phone That's the biggest one, IMO. Launch numbers are largely meaningless, let's see how it's doing in two months, let alone six month's time.

Ironballs 13y ago

The phone isn't carrier locked, you can buy it online and then put any SIM inside it.

jorde 13y ago

The sales number that the article is quoting are for December. I'm not completely sure when Jolla phones started shipping but I think it was early December so this might very well include all the pre-ordered phones.

Someone 13y ago

Also: I expect Apple.fi sells many more iPhones in Finland than Jolla.com sells Jollas. But it _is_ good that they can boast about this. Unfortunately, they will need all the good press they can get. It will be a hard fight to survive.

valgaze 13y ago

Angry Birds soda for a time was said to outpace Coke & Pepsi in Finland too: http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2012/11/21/rovio-angry-birds-soda-is-the-best-selling-drink-in-finland-ahead-of-coke-and-pepsi/ http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2012/11/21/rovio-angry-bird...

xmus 13y ago

am back, remember me (you people put my Karma to -15): THIS is NOT news - home town, a population less than 6Million - hey you outsold iPhone - CONGRATULATIONS! god forbid you outsell iPhone ANYWHERE else! - but hey i APPLAUD Finland using "home grown" phone - BUT comparing it to iPhone - comeon' - you're like coca-cola telling people how much sugar is in a bottle of soda! [they just DON'T tell you the WHOLE story] and down goes my Karma! :)