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I second this, as an European, I would rather not live in the US. Sure I would like to visit, there are lots of interesting place, but having to deal with the

by bausson 13y ago

I second this, as an European, I would rather not live in the US. Sure I would like to visit, there are lots of interesting place, but having to deal with the TSA is to much of a hassle on its own. Government shut-down closing those interesting places once in a while is just the bonus argument, but can prove even more bothersome than the TSA (which is after all only a bad moment).

pearkes 13y ago
Aside from taking off your shoes, there's no practical difference between European airport security and American. Both can have long lines depending on the airport, cheeky and or angry staff.
- bausson 13y ago
  I avoid planes in Europe too, airports being far from city centers, plus checking-in, can add up to 4H to any travel (more than an hour to the airport, check-in, boarding, and afterward getting your stuff and actually getting from the airport to the city is another hour and a half). I use night train, when available, 1/2H to the train station, 5mn to boaard, and I wake up the following day in a nice city to explore. (not an hour away from that city, but in the center).
- rurban 13y ago
  Excuse me? Do you have no idea what right the TSA has and how the TSA abuses their rights? Besides being highly overpaid and highly ineffective as mentioned by the Israeli airport security chief recently. Only in 3rd world countries like the US and some of the worst parts of Africa and Asia you have to wait over 1hr in the line on average, and it's better to avoid the worst airports, like Detroit, Chicago, Minneapolis, Atlanta or Newark at all to fly in from abroad. Paris CDG (de Gaulle), Heathrow, Rome and Istanbul are the worst in Europe and you still cannot compare it to any airport in the US when flying in.
  - bausson 13y ago
    Is CDG really one of the worst? I never had to wait, but took a plane from there only twice, so hardly significant. Or I wasn't there during high season, or I'm a young white guy, so never pulled out, IDK.
ameister14 13y ago
Just saying, this was the first shutdown in something like 17 years. Not exactly a common occurrence.

by bausson 13y ago

pearkes 13y ago

Aside from taking off your shoes, there's no practical difference between European airport security and American. Both can have long lines depending on the airport, cheeky and or angry staff.

bausson 13y ago
I avoid planes in Europe too, airports being far from city centers, plus checking-in, can add up to 4H to any travel (more than an hour to the airport, check-in, boarding, and afterward getting your stuff and actually getting from the airport to the city is another hour and a half). I use night train, when available, 1/2H to the train station, 5mn to boaard, and I wake up the following day in a nice city to explore. (not an hour away from that city, but in the center).
rurban 13y ago
Excuse me? Do you have no idea what right the TSA has and how the TSA abuses their rights? Besides being highly overpaid and highly ineffective as mentioned by the Israeli airport security chief recently. Only in 3rd world countries like the US and some of the worst parts of Africa and Asia you have to wait over 1hr in the line on average, and it's better to avoid the worst airports, like Detroit, Chicago, Minneapolis, Atlanta or Newark at all to fly in from abroad. Paris CDG (de Gaulle), Heathrow, Rome and Istanbul are the worst in Europe and you still cannot compare it to any airport in the US when flying in.
- bausson 13y ago
  Is CDG really one of the worst? I never had to wait, but took a plane from there only twice, so hardly significant. Or I wasn't there during high season, or I'm a young white guy, so never pulled out, IDK.

ameister14 13y ago

Just saying, this was the first shutdown in something like 17 years. Not exactly a common occurrence.