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Nothing Focuses The Mind Like The Ultimate Deadline: Death

71 points by aashaykumar92 13y ago

kseistrup 13y ago
Memento mori — remember that you wil die ⌘ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_mori https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_mori
- digitalengineer 13y ago
  I'd say "Carpe Diem" is the message, not Memento Mori.
  - kseistrup 13y ago
    I'd say that remembering that I have to die one day — and not knowing when it will be — makes me seize the day.
- GotAnyMegadeth 13y ago
  Look at the evidence, only around 93.5% of people who have ever lived have died [0]. With a sample size of 108 billion, I think we can say the data is quite accurate. Therefore I think your chance of living for ever is more like 1 in 20. [0] - http://www.prb.org/Publications/Articles/2002/HowManyPeopleHaveEverLivedonEarth.aspx http://www.prb.org/Publications/Articles/2002/HowManyPeopleH...
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  - kseistrup 13y ago
    That's correct. However, many people live their life as if they have an eternity to waste. Truth is that life is very short, and a technique like memento mori can help us focus on the essential.
kordless 13y ago
Sitting around thinking about kicking the bucket is just setting expectations. Live in the moment - it's what we all have right this second. This night may be your last. Make the most of it.
- delinquentme 13y ago
  ^ coping mechanisms. Learn some biology and stop aging.
midas007 13y ago
Lost a hacker artist friend this last year to cancer. Whatever you want to say to someone, experience or build, get to it right now. And repeat every single day. Also: http://www.ted.com/talks/steve_jobs_how_to_live_before_you_die.html http://www.ted.com/talks/steve_jobs_how_to_live_before_you_d...
elwell 13y ago
Sometimes I trick my mind into thinking I will die if I don't do a certain thing. This can be a good motivator, but can lead to unnecessary anxiety if not used in moderation. Also, it only works as well as you trick yourself into believing it. I've noticed a marked increase in my abilities to focus and in my quickness when I use this method during a game or something similar. I figure I am leveraging the high value placed on survival which has been cultivated via evolution, using it to enhance my mental acuity and awareness such that I might 'survive'.
- booop 13y ago
  How long has this been working out for you? I think after a while you'd be unable to trick yourself into believing it.
  - elwell 13y ago
    I've had similar thought patterns since I was kid (24 now). I think it's similar to the game many kids play "the floor is lava" (where you have to avoid stepping on the floor and then get from point A to B; if you step on the floor you 'die'). So it's partly a function of the imagination. Though more recently I've used it while being more conscious of what I am doing. Maybe, instead of having the effect wane, it's become more controlled and intuitive the more I've done it.
- petercooper 13y ago
  Sometimes I trick my mind into thinking I will die if I don't do a certain thing. It's different since you do it voluntarily but this is a very common symptom of obsessive compulsive disorder so.. just be careful, especially if you catch yourself doing it for something that's not productive or positive. That aside, it's not too difficult to build up a general sense of mortality that we seem to naturally avoid, by studying history, lurking in some of the more depressing sub-Reddits, etc ;-)
  - elwell 13y ago
    Mild OCD has been something that has given me undue stress in my life at times; thankfully, it's not very prevalent in my life these days (intentional exposure to the anxieties seems to have worked for me). But, I most certainly agree; which is why I included, "This can be a good motivator, but can lead to unnecessary anxiety if not used in moderation."
workhere-io 13y ago
Always being anxious about living life to the fullest can be stressful and thus counterproductive to the idea of living a happy life. I find that people are often happier when they aren't afraid to "waste time" doing simple things like sitting on a bench and talking to friends while life goes by.
JonSkeptic 13y ago
This reminds me of the Hagakure: The Way of the Samurai is found in death. When it comes to either/or, there is only the quick choice of death. It is not particularly difficult. Be determined and advance. To say that dying without reaching one's aim is to die a dog's death is the frivolous way of sophisticates. When pressed with the choice of life or death, it is not necessary to gain one's aim. We all want to live. And in large part we make our logic according to what we like. But not having attained our aim and continuing to live is cowardice. This is a thin dangerous line. To die without gaining one's aim is a dog's death and fanaticism. But there is no shame in this. This is the substance of the Way of the Samurai. If by setting one's heart right every morning and evening, one is able to live as though his body were already dead, he gains freedom in the Way. His whole life will be without blame, and he will succeed in his calling.
ruuki 13y ago
Worst product idea ever.
vezzy-fnord 13y ago
Fixation on death is pathetic. This infatuation our society has on the inevitable end of life is ridiculous. It obviously makes for great artistic themes, but death does not concern me whatsoever. I live here and now. Whenever I die, that will be the end of that. But I don't care for it. If you're so obsessive about marking and reminding people about the end of their days, then I advise that you be the first to go.
Kronopath 13y ago
I made something very similar to this watch a while back for the homepage of my website (http://kronopath.net/ http://kronopath.net/). It's a seven-handed clock, with the longest three hands being your typical second, minute, and hour hands, but with each of the shorter hands taking longer to make a full cycle than the last. The shortest hand will finish its rotation when I turn 80, which is a (very loose) estimate for how long I have to live. The fact that someone took this same idea and made it into a commercial product is interesting and a bit disconcerting, if only because I wish I'd thought of doing that first. But it's good to have a reminder that you have a very limited time to do whatever it is you want to do. It helps maintain a sense of forward pressure. And if you need any more motivation, remember that 83 years is only roughly 1000 months long. What are you planning to do this month?
jotm 13y ago
And then I look at my Tikker and see that I've got... like... a $h!tton of numbers left! Yeah, I'm OK, I can do all that stuff later :-) Seriously, even if it displayed the time left in years, seeing 40 years on the screen will make most people go "Eh, that's enough time for everything".
ChrisNorstrom 13y ago
My only concern is this... If you've convinced yourself your whole life that you're going to die at a certain date will the placebo effect come into play and actually make you die prematurely around that date? Other than that it works and it works well. I'm 27, the average male lives to age 72, which means I've got 45 years of life left. It's boosted my productivity, helped me focus on the things that matter, helped me manage my fear of what others think of me (I don't care anymore). My next experiment is to have a countdown timer on my desktop that counts down to my demise. A bit morbid but I've accepted things like this long ago so it's not depressing.
- kseistrup 13y ago
  I bet the mean years left for a 27 y.o. man is greater than 72-27, but i don't know if there are any public statistics to back up the claim.
nashadelic 13y ago
A lot of successful people and a number of religions place high value on our ephemerality as a way of focusing on the important things. In practice, I've found this rather hard to do and a lot of times a putdown as well. I think the concept of your own death is hard to truly fathom. It's the same reason generally heart patients ignore doctor's advice of stop eating crap and exercising more or face death. A much better workaround I've found was after watching Groundhog Day [1]. In the movie, Bill Murray is stuck in a day where, no matter what he does, the next morning the day starts exactly the same. In that day, it doesn't matter if he dies, kills someone, makes someone fall in love with him, robs a bank; the next day, its the same old day. spoilers The movie then becomes about what if you had just one day (the exact same day) in your life, how would you live that day? A perfect day. One where you do as much good as you can. I think the movie tries to tackle the same issue of our limited time on earth by taking a rather interesting angle. By thinking of your day as a groundhog day and wondering, if this day is going to be the same day forever; how best can I live it? For me, this has been a better approach to how I should spend my day rather than waking up and focusing upon my death. [1] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107048/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107048/

71 points by aashaykumar92 13y ago

Memento mori — remember that you wil die ⌘ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_mori https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_mori

digitalengineer 13y ago
I'd say "Carpe Diem" is the message, not Memento Mori.
- kseistrup 13y ago
  I'd say that remembering that I have to die one day — and not knowing when it will be — makes me seize the day.
GotAnyMegadeth 13y ago
Look at the evidence, only around 93.5% of people who have ever lived have died [0]. With a sample size of 108 billion, I think we can say the data is quite accurate. Therefore I think your chance of living for ever is more like 1 in 20. [0] - http://www.prb.org/Publications/Articles/2002/HowManyPeopleHaveEverLivedonEarth.aspx http://www.prb.org/Publications/Articles/2002/HowManyPeopleH...
- deleted 13y ago
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- kseistrup 13y ago
  That's correct. However, many people live their life as if they have an eternity to waste. Truth is that life is very short, and a technique like memento mori can help us focus on the essential.

kordless 13y ago

Sitting around thinking about kicking the bucket is just setting expectations. Live in the moment - it's what we all have right this second. This night may be your last. Make the most of it.

delinquentme 13y ago
^ coping mechanisms. Learn some biology and stop aging.

midas007 13y ago

Lost a hacker artist friend this last year to cancer. Whatever you want to say to someone, experience or build, get to it right now. And repeat every single day. Also: http://www.ted.com/talks/steve_jobs_how_to_live_before_you_die.html http://www.ted.com/talks/steve_jobs_how_to_live_before_you_d...

elwell 13y ago

Sometimes I trick my mind into thinking I will die if I don't do a certain thing. This can be a good motivator, but can lead to unnecessary anxiety if not used in moderation. Also, it only works as well as you trick yourself into believing it. I've noticed a marked increase in my abilities to focus and in my quickness when I use this method during a game or something similar. I figure I am leveraging the high value placed on survival which has been cultivated via evolution, using it to enhance my mental acuity and awareness such that I might 'survive'.

booop 13y ago
How long has this been working out for you? I think after a while you'd be unable to trick yourself into believing it.
- elwell 13y ago
  I've had similar thought patterns since I was kid (24 now). I think it's similar to the game many kids play "the floor is lava" (where you have to avoid stepping on the floor and then get from point A to B; if you step on the floor you 'die'). So it's partly a function of the imagination. Though more recently I've used it while being more conscious of what I am doing. Maybe, instead of having the effect wane, it's become more controlled and intuitive the more I've done it.
petercooper 13y ago
Sometimes I trick my mind into thinking I will die if I don't do a certain thing. It's different since you do it voluntarily but this is a very common symptom of obsessive compulsive disorder so.. just be careful, especially if you catch yourself doing it for something that's not productive or positive. That aside, it's not too difficult to build up a general sense of mortality that we seem to naturally avoid, by studying history, lurking in some of the more depressing sub-Reddits, etc ;-)
- elwell 13y ago
  Mild OCD has been something that has given me undue stress in my life at times; thankfully, it's not very prevalent in my life these days (intentional exposure to the anxieties seems to have worked for me). But, I most certainly agree; which is why I included, "This can be a good motivator, but can lead to unnecessary anxiety if not used in moderation."

workhere-io 13y ago

Always being anxious about living life to the fullest can be stressful and thus counterproductive to the idea of living a happy life. I find that people are often happier when they aren't afraid to "waste time" doing simple things like sitting on a bench and talking to friends while life goes by.

JonSkeptic 13y ago

This reminds me of the Hagakure: The Way of the Samurai is found in death. When it comes to either/or, there is only the quick choice of death. It is not particularly difficult. Be determined and advance. To say that dying without reaching one's aim is to die a dog's death is the frivolous way of sophisticates. When pressed with the choice of life or death, it is not necessary to gain one's aim. We all want to live. And in large part we make our logic according to what we like. But not having attained our aim and continuing to live is cowardice. This is a thin dangerous line. To die without gaining one's aim is a dog's death and fanaticism. But there is no shame in this. This is the substance of the Way of the Samurai. If by setting one's heart right every morning and evening, one is able to live as though his body were already dead, he gains freedom in the Way. His whole life will be without blame, and he will succeed in his calling.

ruuki 13y ago

Worst product idea ever.

vezzy-fnord 13y ago

Fixation on death is pathetic. This infatuation our society has on the inevitable end of life is ridiculous. It obviously makes for great artistic themes, but death does not concern me whatsoever. I live here and now. Whenever I die, that will be the end of that. But I don't care for it. If you're so obsessive about marking and reminding people about the end of their days, then I advise that you be the first to go.

Kronopath 13y ago

I made something very similar to this watch a while back for the homepage of my website (http://kronopath.net/ http://kronopath.net/). It's a seven-handed clock, with the longest three hands being your typical second, minute, and hour hands, but with each of the shorter hands taking longer to make a full cycle than the last. The shortest hand will finish its rotation when I turn 80, which is a (very loose) estimate for how long I have to live. The fact that someone took this same idea and made it into a commercial product is interesting and a bit disconcerting, if only because I wish I'd thought of doing that first. But it's good to have a reminder that you have a very limited time to do whatever it is you want to do. It helps maintain a sense of forward pressure. And if you need any more motivation, remember that 83 years is only roughly 1000 months long. What are you planning to do this month?

jotm 13y ago

And then I look at my Tikker and see that I've got... like... a $h!tton of numbers left! Yeah, I'm OK, I can do all that stuff later :-) Seriously, even if it displayed the time left in years, seeing 40 years on the screen will make most people go "Eh, that's enough time for everything".

ChrisNorstrom 13y ago

My only concern is this... If you've convinced yourself your whole life that you're going to die at a certain date will the placebo effect come into play and actually make you die prematurely around that date? Other than that it works and it works well. I'm 27, the average male lives to age 72, which means I've got 45 years of life left. It's boosted my productivity, helped me focus on the things that matter, helped me manage my fear of what others think of me (I don't care anymore). My next experiment is to have a countdown timer on my desktop that counts down to my demise. A bit morbid but I've accepted things like this long ago so it's not depressing.

kseistrup 13y ago
I bet the mean years left for a 27 y.o. man is greater than 72-27, but i don't know if there are any public statistics to back up the claim.

nashadelic 13y ago

A lot of successful people and a number of religions place high value on our ephemerality as a way of focusing on the important things. In practice, I've found this rather hard to do and a lot of times a putdown as well. I think the concept of your own death is hard to truly fathom. It's the same reason generally heart patients ignore doctor's advice of stop eating crap and exercising more or face death. A much better workaround I've found was after watching Groundhog Day [1]. In the movie, Bill Murray is stuck in a day where, no matter what he does, the next morning the day starts exactly the same. In that day, it doesn't matter if he dies, kills someone, makes someone fall in love with him, robs a bank; the next day, its the same old day. spoilers The movie then becomes about what if you had just one day (the exact same day) in your life, how would you live that day? A perfect day. One where you do as much good as you can. I think the movie tries to tackle the same issue of our limited time on earth by taking a rather interesting angle. By thinking of your day as a groundhog day and wondering, if this day is going to be the same day forever; how best can I live it? For me, this has been a better approach to how I should spend my day rather than waking up and focusing upon my death. [1] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107048/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107048/