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- There are no successful clinical trials on marijuana by the FDA. For someone who praises science, your statements really show your ignorance.

Multics 13y ago
If you check PubMed, you'll see some.
- bobby100 13y ago
  Citation please?
  - Multics 13y ago
    You keep on editing your comment. I'm not sure what you want me to cite! You didn't originally mention the FDA. And either did xacaxulu!
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ItendToDisagree 13y ago
Isn't that because it was scheduled as illegal? Circular logic is fun!
- xacaxulu 13y ago
  Nailed it.
- bobby100 13y ago
  So? What does your straw man have to do with anything? He stated marijuana is scientifically proven to be beneficial. It hasn't. No successful clinical trials exist.
  - ItendToDisagree 13y ago
    - There are no successful clinical trials on marijuana by the FDA. For someone who praises science, your statements really show your ignorance. So? What does your straw man have to do with anything? He stated marijuana is scientifically proven to be beneficial. It hasn't. No successful clinical trials exist. A brief use of the Googles turns up: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24373545 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24373545 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24375977 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24375977 http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/mpohbp/asap/abs/mp060066m.html http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/mpohbp/asap/abs/mp060... and many more if you bother to look (also negative impact if you're interested in those!) Generally you do not do a 'clinical trial' on something that is marked as a schedule 1 substance. What straw man are you referring to? You implied it had no benefits because it doesn't have clinical trials... It doesn't have clinical trials because it is said to have no benefits (schedule 1)... Circular logic! Magic! Edit: Quoting parent
    - bobby100 13y ago
      THC is already legal in pill form with a prescription. Again as I've stated, there are zero successful clinical trials (in the USA or anywhere else) that show smoking marijuana is beneficial. Standard scientific proof requires clinical trials.
      - ItendToDisagree 13y ago
        THC is already legal in pill form with a prescription. Again as I've stated, there are zero successful clinical trials (in the USA or anywhere else) that show smoking marijuana is beneficial. Standard scientific proof requires clinical trials. First you never mentioned "smoking" in your parent (I quoted it in my earlier reply for reference). Second 'clinical trials' are a specific thing. In the words of Inigo Montoya, you keep using those words, I do not think it means what you think it means. A clinical trial is only done at a specific stage of clinical research or commercial drug development. Clinical trials are an expensive process that must be paid for by the researcher/company looking to market the drug. You may want to read up on what a clinical trial entails before you insist on it being the only useful scientific metric. Clinical trials are also primarily concerned with safety (it is at least 2 of the phases of the trial). You may want to reconsider your use of 'clinical trial' in your criticism here. Edit: Last it seems that you did not even bother to read or comprehend my comment/links before you replied with a comment that attempts to change the subject (smoking vs THC in pill form). That seems like very 'trolly' behavior and I will stop responding if you would not like to actually discuss the subject.
xacaxulu 13y ago
I don't limit my scientific research to US Studies only since the political climate that controls funding is a very important factor. You might also want to research how the DEA and NIDA regularly hinder any applications for research showing the positive benefits of marijuana. I wouldn't equate lack of FDA studies as an indicator of marijuana's positive/negative effects.
- bobby100 13y ago
  This doesn't mean anything. Show me successful clinical trials from other countries if you want, especially if you think there's a conspiracy with the FDA.
chc 13y ago
Are there successful clinical trials on M&Ms? We're talking about recreational use here, not prescriptions.
Zigurd 13y ago
What's your vested interest? Drug law enforcement or treating addiction to a non-addictive drug quackery?

Multics 13y ago

If you check PubMed, you'll see some.

bobby100 13y ago
Citation please?
- Multics 13y ago
  You keep on editing your comment. I'm not sure what you want me to cite! You didn't originally mention the FDA. And either did xacaxulu!
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ItendToDisagree 13y ago

Isn't that because it was scheduled as illegal? Circular logic is fun!

xacaxulu 13y ago
Nailed it.
bobby100 13y ago
So? What does your straw man have to do with anything? He stated marijuana is scientifically proven to be beneficial. It hasn't. No successful clinical trials exist.
- ItendToDisagree 13y ago
  - There are no successful clinical trials on marijuana by the FDA. For someone who praises science, your statements really show your ignorance. So? What does your straw man have to do with anything? He stated marijuana is scientifically proven to be beneficial. It hasn't. No successful clinical trials exist. A brief use of the Googles turns up: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24373545 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24373545 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24375977 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24375977 http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/mpohbp/asap/abs/mp060066m.html http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/mpohbp/asap/abs/mp060... and many more if you bother to look (also negative impact if you're interested in those!) Generally you do not do a 'clinical trial' on something that is marked as a schedule 1 substance. What straw man are you referring to? You implied it had no benefits because it doesn't have clinical trials... It doesn't have clinical trials because it is said to have no benefits (schedule 1)... Circular logic! Magic! Edit: Quoting parent
  - bobby100 13y ago
    THC is already legal in pill form with a prescription. Again as I've stated, there are zero successful clinical trials (in the USA or anywhere else) that show smoking marijuana is beneficial. Standard scientific proof requires clinical trials.
    - ItendToDisagree 13y ago
      THC is already legal in pill form with a prescription. Again as I've stated, there are zero successful clinical trials (in the USA or anywhere else) that show smoking marijuana is beneficial. Standard scientific proof requires clinical trials. First you never mentioned "smoking" in your parent (I quoted it in my earlier reply for reference). Second 'clinical trials' are a specific thing. In the words of Inigo Montoya, you keep using those words, I do not think it means what you think it means. A clinical trial is only done at a specific stage of clinical research or commercial drug development. Clinical trials are an expensive process that must be paid for by the researcher/company looking to market the drug. You may want to read up on what a clinical trial entails before you insist on it being the only useful scientific metric. Clinical trials are also primarily concerned with safety (it is at least 2 of the phases of the trial). You may want to reconsider your use of 'clinical trial' in your criticism here. Edit: Last it seems that you did not even bother to read or comprehend my comment/links before you replied with a comment that attempts to change the subject (smoking vs THC in pill form). That seems like very 'trolly' behavior and I will stop responding if you would not like to actually discuss the subject.

xacaxulu 13y ago

I don't limit my scientific research to US Studies only since the political climate that controls funding is a very important factor. You might also want to research how the DEA and NIDA regularly hinder any applications for research showing the positive benefits of marijuana. I wouldn't equate lack of FDA studies as an indicator of marijuana's positive/negative effects.

bobby100 13y ago
This doesn't mean anything. Show me successful clinical trials from other countries if you want, especially if you think there's a conspiracy with the FDA.

chc 13y ago

Are there successful clinical trials on M&Ms? We're talking about recreational use here, not prescriptions.

Zigurd 13y ago

What's your vested interest? Drug law enforcement or treating addiction to a non-addictive drug quackery?