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Colorado, unlike a large number of US states, seems to take crazy things like simple economics and overwhelmingly positive scientific research into account when
by xacaxulu 13y ago
Colorado, unlike a large number of US states, seems to take crazy things like simple economics and overwhelmingly positive scientific research into account when drafting laws. Here in the south we prefer to use 1950's mores, Jim Crow era law enforcement priorities and 3000 year old Judean religious texts when writing our laws. Bravo Colorado!
- MWil 13y agoWith our luck, the fed gov't will announce that states can choose to expand marijuana laws and they will pay for the infrastructure and it'll be just like Medicaid!
- bobby100 13y ago- There are no successful clinical trials on marijuana by the FDA. For someone who praises science, your statements really show your ignorance.
- Multics 13y agoIf you check PubMed, you'll see some.
- ItendToDisagree 13y agoIsn't that because it was scheduled as illegal? Circular logic is fun!
- xacaxulu 13y agoNailed it.
- bobby100 13y agoSo? What does your straw man have to do with anything? He stated marijuana is scientifically proven to be beneficial. It hasn't. No successful clinical trials exist.
- ItendToDisagree 13y ago- There are no successful clinical trials on marijuana by the FDA. For someone who praises science, your statements really show your ignorance. So? What does your straw man have to do with anything? He stated marijuana is scientifically proven to be beneficial. It hasn't. No successful clinical trials exist. A brief use of the Googles turns up: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24373545 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24373545 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24375977 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24375977 http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/mpohbp/asap/abs/mp060066m.html http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/mpohbp/asap/abs/mp060... and many more if you bother to look (also negative impact if you're interested in those!) Generally you do not do a 'clinical trial' on something that is marked as a schedule 1 substance. What straw man are you referring to? You implied it had no benefits because it doesn't have clinical trials... It doesn't have clinical trials because it is said to have no benefits (schedule 1)... Circular logic! Magic! Edit: Quoting parent
- bobby100 13y agoTHC is already legal in pill form with a prescription. Again as I've stated, there are zero successful clinical trials (in the USA or anywhere else) that show smoking marijuana is beneficial. Standard scientific proof requires clinical trials.
- xacaxulu 13y agoI don't limit my scientific research to US Studies only since the political climate that controls funding is a very important factor. You might also want to research how the DEA and NIDA regularly hinder any applications for research showing the positive benefits of marijuana. I wouldn't equate lack of FDA studies as an indicator of marijuana's positive/negative effects.
- bobby100 13y agoThis doesn't mean anything. Show me successful clinical trials from other countries if you want, especially if you think there's a conspiracy with the FDA.
- chc 13y agoAre there successful clinical trials on M&Ms? We're talking about recreational use here, not prescriptions.
- Zigurd 13y agoWhat's your vested interest? Drug law enforcement or treating addiction to a non-addictive drug quackery?
- huherto 13y agohttp://www.npr.org/2013/11/11/244527860/forget-the-50-states-u-s-is-really-11-nations-says-author http://www.npr.org/2013/11/11/244527860/forget-the-50-states... My guess is that people in Colorado tend to be more libertarian. They don't want government interference, and at the same time they don't follow the religious culture in the deep south.
- sliverstorm 13y agoThere's a little bit of libertarian undercurrent there, but I believe it's more of an emergent phenomenon from the mixing of independent-by-nature left- and right-wing voters. Colorado, with large swaths of rural areas as well as big cities, is rather purple. Put together left- and right-wing voters, and you get either statism or libertarianism, and Colorado leans towards libertarianism. Or so my theory goes.
- lotharbot 13y agoIMO both Colorado's right-leaning and left-leaning populations have had a libertarian bent for a long time -- from the "leave us alone" ranchers of Idalia to the "let us be" hippies of Nederland.
- kbd 13y ago> ...and 3000 year old Judean religious texts... FWIW there's nothing in the Bible about throwing people in jail for alcohol (still baffled the US ever passed alcohol prohibition) or drugs. I'd argue against prohibition on Christian grounds as well as other grounds.
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- Crito 13y agoUnsurprisingly, Christians frequently disagree with each other on matters of religion.
- kbd 13y agoIf you're going to try to invalidate what I wrote by "people disagree" then justify from the text where it says that drugs should be illegal and punishable by imprisonment.
- Crito 13y agoThe fact that there are many christians who do find religious reasons to oppose the consumption of alcohol invalidates what you wrote. You think there is nothing in the bible that is opposed to alcohol, but many people disagree. The existence of those people is the point. This is your opinion: "FWIW there's nothing in the Bible about throwing people in jail for alcohol" This is a fact: "Here in the south we [often] use [...] 3000 year old Judean religious texts when writing our [drug] laws." I am not going to defend their beliefs to you; that is a religious discussion that I have absolutely no interest in. I am pointing out that those people do exist.
- kbd 13y agoThis is intellectually lazy reasoning. The existence of people who believe something does not make what they believe true. Realize that the two statements: "Here in the south we [often] use [...] 3000 year old Judean religious texts when writing our [drug] laws." "...there's nothing in the Bible about throwing people in jail for alcohol" are not necessarily contradictory. People can claim to justify what they believe based on something that doesn't in fact support their beliefs. My point that the Bible doesn't support drug prohibition/imprisonment stands. Edit: I remain baffled how Christians supported alcohol prohibition when Jesus himself provided alcohol for a party.